May 2024 - Blind-sysadmins - lists.hodgsonfamily.org

mailing lists to subscribe to as a sysadmin
by Eigeldinger Simon 21 May '24

21 May '24

Hi all, Any mailing lists you are recommending to join as a sysadmin? Basically i am subscribed to the nvda lists, techtalk, teams-access, m365-accessibility, winaccess and some other smaller lists. And i also have some newsletters from the german cert. Greetings, Simon

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Accessing remote system in Amazon WorkSpaces with a screen reader
by Lukasz Golonka 15 May '24

15 May '24

Dear all, My employer recently decided to move most of our software development activities to a remote systems accessed via Amazon WorkSpaces. By default it just connects to an Amazon Linux 2 running Mate as an GUI, which obviously will not work with a screen reader. My initial idea was to access this remote system via SSH, which is a supported scenario for accessing WorkSpaces, and while it will be possible to write and compile code that way, there are some activities that require a GUI, accessing our GitLab instances via a web browser being a prime example. Note that these web applications are not and will not be accessible from our main machines i.e. they are reachable only from the systems running inside the WorkSpace. According to JAWS's documentation its remote access solution has support for accessing remote Windows inside WorkSpaces, so I gave this a try. Sadly this either does not work, or I'm missing something very obvious. AWS supports two protocols when creating a remote machine: WSP and PCoIP. When running JAWs on a remote machine using the former it does not detect that it is running in a remote access scenario and relies on transferring audio to the client. For the latter while JAWS claims to be running in the remote mode the authorization is not taken from the client JAWS's speech is also transferred as an audio and not using a remote channel. Has anyone tried and successfully used JAWS's remote support in Amazon WorkSpaces? JAWS's documentation for remote access is sadly very basic in this area. Note that I am aware it should be possible to achieve the similar goal by using NVDA Remote, however that will require a remote server which is visible both from my work machine and from the system running inside the WorkSpace, which is going to be pretty difficult, as main reason for deploying WorkSpaces in the first place was separation of these two environments. Obviously any alternative proposals for accessing remote Windows in WorkSpaces are very welcome. Thanks for your help! -- Regards Lukasz Golonka

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Navigation in the Azure UI has become very inefficient.
by Darragh Ó Héiligh 14 May '24

14 May '24

Hello, Perhaps someone could direct me in the right direction. The people I previously raised this kind of problem with are no longer with Microsoft. In the update released just over a week ago, the navigation in the Azure portal has become painfully inefficient. Previously to navigate the list of tabs / pages for a blade, I would do the following: 1. Press control end. Press shift r. Press E to get to the search box. Tab twice. Jaws would recognise that I was in a list of items similar to a treeview and would quite comfortably read the list as I arrowed through. Now: I go to the region using step one and two above. But the treeview is no longer recognised properly. I can read the first few links. When it gets to the sections such as config for example, I can't keep using arrow down to move through the list. The virtual PC cursor is re-enabled. The item is then no longer a link. Jaws just reads it as text. There is also a button after each item that says "Add to favourites". This means I need to listen to a lot more speech and I need to arrow through a lot more. Also, take the example where I want to find the add button in one of the blades. I would previously do the following: 1. Press control and end to get to the bottom of the page. 2. Press shift and r to move to the last region. 3. Press b three or four times to find the close button. 4. Then arrow down until I find the button that I want. I arrow down so that I don't miss any important messages at the top of the blade. Now, because of all these buttons to add to favourites it takes far too long to find this simple add button. By the way, I have disabled the collapsable menus that came out in this update because they made the situation even worse! Regards Darragh

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Nginx SSL question
by David Mehler 10 May '24

10 May '24

Hello, Do we have any advanced admins of the Nginx web server? I'm doing some configuration changes on a spare Nginx web server to evaluate them before putting them on the main server. I've got a question on the ssl_protocols configuration option. I'm wanting to support only TLSv1.3 and TLSv1.2 I've seen configurations written in both of the following ways: ssl_protocols TLSv1.3 TLSv1.2; or: ssl_protocols TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3; Question, which is correct? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1

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using jump servers
by Fayre, Jason 10 May '24

10 May '24

Hello, At work, I have a situation where I need to access a server through a jump server. Essentially, you RDP into the jump server, then RDP from that server into your final destination. Does anyone know if JAWS will support an RDP connection like this? Jason Fayre Assistive Technology Specialist | Enterprise Endpoint Compute | Employee Technology Services | CIBC 81 Bay Street, 14th Floor Toronto ON, Canada, M5J 0E7 | Tel: (416) 412-2678 | jason.fayre(a)cibc.com<mailto:jason.fayre@cibc.com>

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Recommendations for PBX and softphones for windows?
by Eigeldinger Simon 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi all, We are, as i said in another thread, changing our PBX from a hardware device to a cloud/software based solution. Which PBX are you recommending? I saw that some are using FreePBX and FusionPBX. And which softphones are you recommending for Windows? We are also getting ried of our old hardware phones as well. I want something i can use comfortably which isn't in the way all the time when the phone starts ringing. Are there also headset recommendations? Our city has around 100-200 phones. Greetings, Simon

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Re: Using a Cisco PBX
by Eigeldinger Simon 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi Andrew, Thanks for the info. We are also in a second phone solution based on a cloud hosted Unify pbx which we are going to test right now. I will get an account for the phone part soon. Will report back how that one goes. Migration of that one would be easiest because there we could just move the whole data over. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 13:08 An: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Betreff: RE: Using a Cisco PBX Hi. Cisco used to lock you into a proprietary phone system called Skinny (SCCP) which didn't use SIP. This meant you had to use Cisco hardware and software. When I was using it we were using a Cisco router with a few ISDN-30 links, but we were desperately wanting to use SIP trunks. Even moving to the SIP trunks meant we had to buy a new set of routers and use those as gateways, we couldn't just set up the PBX appliances to gateway out to the SIP trunk. Would be really interested to see if you have looked at M365/Teams voice options. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 10:26 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Subject: AW: Using a Cisco PBX Hi Andrew, Well that sums up all what i have seen unfortunately. Thanks for the info. Seems that this pbx isn't all that loved *smile*. I also looked for more advanced settings like codecs. But this seems not available in this version over here. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrew Hodgson via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2024 11:46 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Using a Cisco PBX Hi. I used the appliance version of this around 10 years ago which was version 8.6. Similar experience to you, the admin portal works ok but the desktop client is utter garbage. Not long after I left that job it got replaced by Skype for Business. It wasn't really a good fit for our business, we were only a relatively small outfit with around 300 phones and we never could afford the call centre addons for it. We kept it because there was a big investment in the phone hardware which we wanted to keep going until it wasn't supported. We were on version 4.x for ages, which ran on Windows 2003. We only upgraded to 8.6 as it was long out of support and we couldn't find someone to keep it going for us. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 8:26 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Using a Cisco PBX Hi all, Our city plans to get ried of the old Siemens/Unify PBX and switching over to a cloud based one. At the moment we are testing one from Cisco. I guess it is called Cisco Hosted Communication Service. The admin interface seems to be accessible enough to work with it. At least i looked at adding a device and working with extensions. I also looked at the Cisco Jabber UC client for Windows. Though this seems to be less accessible than the admin interface. It seems to have some accessibility features though it doesn't feel all that accessible using NVDA. Has someone some experience with this system and the client? Greetings, Simon _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Using a Cisco PBX
by Eigeldinger Simon 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi all, Our city plans to get ried of the old Siemens/Unify PBX and switching over to a cloud based one. At the moment we are testing one from Cisco. I guess it is called Cisco Hosted Communication Service. The admin interface seems to be accessible enough to work with it. At least i looked at adding a device and working with extensions. I also looked at the Cisco Jabber UC client for Windows. Though this seems to be less accessible than the admin interface. It seems to have some accessibility features though it doesn't feel all that accessible using NVDA. Has someone some experience with this system and the client? Greetings, Simon

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PBX on VPS?
by David Mehler 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hello, Do we have any users of a PBX running it on a VPS using it for home or small business services on a budget? Thanks. Dave. -- Sent from Mozilla Thunderbird 91.13.1

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