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Re: VMware ESXi administration
by Can Kırca 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

Hello Ryan, I'm running HPE Customized Image ESXi 6.0.0 Update 3 version 600.9.7.0.17, it was released on February 2017 and based on ESXi 6.0.0 Update 3 Vmkernel Release Build 5050593 I agree your ideas, Currently above version working here and I'm managing my 6 virtual machines with client right now. If any problem persist in the future, I will have to find an other solution smile. 2019-02-27 19:39 GMT+03:00, Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: > Hi: > Do you know what version of ESXI/VCenter you'll be managing? Its been > years since I was a VMWare administrator, but when I was the VSphere client > would automatically upgrade itself when it connected to a newer VCenter > server or ESXI host than it was designed for, and I know VMWare is really > pushing the HTML5 client. > Just being honest here, VMWare has a long way to go as far as being > accessible goes. Their Workstation product is really good, but their server > products leave a lot to be desired. I never had really good luck working > with them on accessibility either, they were not very responsive, that was a > long time ago though so it may be worth trying to reengage them. I > definitely recommend looking at Powershell and the PowerCLI as you can do > many things with that. However, if you need to use a lot of other VMWare > products such as site recovery manager, you'll be out of luck. I can't > really recommend a blind person build a career on VMWare administration for > this reason, beyond the basics you won't be able to do much as a lot of the > power of VMWare comes with their supporting products beyond ESXI/Vcenter. > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:32 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: VMware ESXi administration > > Sure, you can download from the following link that I mentioned: > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvspherecli… > > Best. > > 2019-02-27 16:27 GMT+03:00, Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com>: >> Thank you both for this information. >> >> If you've found a particularly usable client, I'd appreciate knowing how >> to >> locate it. >> >> Chris >> >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 08:37:13AM +0300, Can K??rca wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Some versions are not, but VSphere client 6 is mostly accessible to do >>> following tasks: >>> Brows datastores and run all file/folder commands, Create virtual >>> machine, edit/update virtual machine, manage snapshots and related >>> commands, configure remote applications like SSH/SNMP, manage power, >>> read tasks status and so on. >>> If you want, I can share the client that I'm using. >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> 2019-02-27 2:33 GMT+03:00, kprescott(a)coolip.net <kprescott(a)coolip.net>: >>> > If you manage with VCenter, use powershell with PowerCLI >>> > That works wonderfully for me. >>> > I use both powershell on Windows, and powershell on my Ubuntu Linux >>> > machine. >>> > There are good tutorials on PowerCLI. >>> > The html5 interface is almost useless. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Chris Nestrud <ccn(a)chrisnestrud.com> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:44 PM >>> > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] VMware ESXi administration >>> > >>> > Hello all, >>> > >>> > I'd appreciate any information on accessible administration of VMware >>> > ESXi >>> > servers. Creating and destroying VMs, monitoring status, etc. I >>> > understand >>> > that accessing VM consoles is probably not accessible. The ESXi VPAT >>> > suggests that the HTML5 client is not accessible, so I'm hoping that >>> > someone >>> > has found an alternative. I do not need to be able to install the ESXi >>> > server; another team will be responsible for that piece. >>> > Thanks in advance for any information. >>> > >>> > Chris >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Can K??rca >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > -- Can Kırca

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VMware ESXi administration
by Chris Nestrud 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

Hello all, I'd appreciate any information on accessible administration of VMware ESXi servers. Creating and destroying VMs, monitoring status, etc. I understand that accessing VM consoles is probably not accessible. The ESXi VPAT suggests that the HTML5 client is not accessible, so I'm hoping that someone has found an alternative. I do not need to be able to install the ESXi server; another team will be responsible for that piece. Thanks in advance for any information. Chris

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3D printing a floor plan
by John G Heim 26 Feb '19

26 Feb '19

I am helping to organize a convention where many of the attendees will be blind. I was hoping to get a 3D map of the hotel made. The first estimate I get was for over $3,000. I got a copy of the floor plan of the hotel from the hotel itself. It is in a PDF document. I was thinking that if I could just find some cheap way to print it as raised lines, I could add braille labels myself. Anybody know of a service that prints raised line drawings from a PDF document? -- John G. Heim; jheim(a)math.wisc.edu; 608-263-4189

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Accessible multimeter
by David Mehler 26 Feb '19

26 Feb '19

Hello, A little while back maybe early last year or so there was talk about an accessible multimeter. I now have the need to get one and by the end of today the means to do so. My primary use for this device as of now, although this might expand, in the future, is as a computer power supply tester, a PSU. I lost one for sure last week and have doubts about the reliability and functionality of another, and i've got two others I have no clue on. If anyone has any recommendations i'd appreciate knowing about them. Also, I am by no means an electricity guru so if those with experience could talk things with me I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Dave.

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turning off secure boot and UEFI
by David Mehler 25 Feb '19

25 Feb '19

Hello, I've had to do a new win10 install and somehow I must have cleared my bios settings, had also to replace a power supply. The first clue came after the machine was booted up again and wouldn't boot off of any USB drive, so I checked system information, UEFI was back on as was secure boot. I do not remember how I turned this off as I just did it once and forgot about it. I do not like UEFI nor secure boot, although I understand the purpose i'd rather be able to set my machine to boot off an inserted USB thumb drive. The motherboard is an Asus m5a97 and the bios is an american megatrends. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.

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Re: Do you recommend an accessible SSH client for iOS?
by Can Kırca 24 Feb '19

24 Feb '19

Hello, I bought SSH Terminal, but unfortunately it is not working for me. Because I am using Google authentication for two-factor. Do you have another recommendation for iPhone? Thank you. mattias jonsson <mj(a)mjw.se> şunları yazdı (20 Eki 2018 23:02): > or ssh terminal > > På 20 oktober 2018 9:47:27 em Bill Dengler <codeofdusk(a)gmail.com> skrev: > >> Try Prompt. >> >> Bill >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 15:06, Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello there, >>> >>> Do you recommend an accessible SSH client for iOS please? >>> I need to connect some of my servers while mobile to make some changes. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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win10 and booting via USB drive with accessible repair
by David Mehler 23 Feb '19

23 Feb '19

Hello, I just did a new win10 1803 install 64 bit on a machine. I found something i've never seen before and am wondering considering I am now unable to duplicate the action. I've got the secure boot in my uefi set to disabled and I created a thumb drive using win10 media creation utility. This went fine. At first the system would just go in to windows without booting off the thumb drive, I tried several USB ports, one would boot off the thumb drive then on a subsequent boot not do so then another would, now none will. Ok, so I assumed on the times it wasn't booting off the thumb drive that it wasn't working. Somehow and this is what i'd like to do again, I got to what is presumably the recovery screen, it has things like continue (boot hard drive), repair advanced options and usb uefi drive boot. How I know this is I hit narrator's keys thinking it had booted off the thumb drive and narrator actually read out this recovery screen. I'd like to get back to this screen. Has anyone else seen this behavior? Thanks. Dave.

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Re: Replacement for Java JRE
by Eigeldinger Simon 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

Hi Jason, Thanks for the info. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2019 14:05 An: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason(a)jasonjgw.net> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Replacement for Java JRE I think you can still stay on JRE 8 for a while yet, with security updates. For work purposes, I occasionally use a Java-based tool, but it’s a command line based program. I installed adoptopenjdk 11 to run it, which is under the GPL, and built from the OpenJDK sources. From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 04:24 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Replacement for Java JRE Hi all, I guess many of you have heard that Oracle doesn't allow free usage for the Java JRE in companys anymore. We have some old web apps that still use the java plugin. Is there any alternative for that? I recently heard that Oracle hasn't open sourced the web plugin so OpenJDK needs to create their own plugin though that might take a little while. Is someone using something different now? Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Multiple browsers managing favorites
by Troy Hergert 14 Feb '19

14 Feb '19

Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has found a good practice for managing staff computers when they use multiple browsers. I myself use 4 browsers somewhat regularly. Usually when I upgrade a staff's computer, I can go to the browsers they indicate and export bookmarks/favorites for uploading into a new computer. Just recently, and it doesn't happen often, a computer completely failed and I couldn't recover someone's numerous bookmarks. We aren't setup for roaming profiles so they were lost in that instance. Anyone have any policies or recommended procedures for helping their staff manage their favorites/bookmarks when multiple browsers are in play? Thanks. ###

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Re: Replacement for Java JRE
by Jason White 14 Feb '19

14 Feb '19

I think you can still stay on JRE 8 for a while yet, with security updates. For work purposes, I occasionally use a Java-based tool, but it’s a command line based program. I installed adoptopenjdk 11 to run it, which is under the GPL, and built from the OpenJDK sources. From: Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 04:24 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Replacement for Java JRE Hi all, I guess many of you have heard that Oracle doesn't allow free usage for the Java JRE in companys anymore. We have some old web apps that still use the java plugin. Is there any alternative for that? I recently heard that Oracle hasn't open sourced the web plugin so OpenJDK needs to create their own plugin though that might take a little while. Is someone using something different now? Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Replacement for Java JRE
by Eigeldinger Simon 14 Feb '19

14 Feb '19

Hi all, I guess many of you have heard that Oracle doesn't allow free usage for the Java JRE in companys anymore. We have some old web apps that still use the java plugin. Is there any alternative for that? I recently heard that Oracle hasn't open sourced the web plugin so OpenJDK needs to create their own plugin though that might take a little while. Is someone using something different now? Greetings and thanks, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 [Hohenems_logo]Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger(a)hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

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Tool to create a website that is not a CMS
by Luke Scholey 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

Hi all Bit of a strange question, but does anyone know of an accessible tool, for Windows, that will allow a client of mine to create a website? She doesn’t want to use Drupal or Wordpress but still wants things like CSS to have a consistent style across the site. She only knows very basic HTML so A program where a lot of coding needs to be done won’t work either. I’ve tried a lot of programs where you’re meant to drag and drop elements but none of them work with NVDA or Jaws. It’s for a charity website, so it shouldn’t need to be that advanced, maybe a signup form for the mailing list and a contact form. Thanks for any help. Kind regards Luke Scholey -- Luke Scholey Webmaster i/c Publishing lukescholey.co.uk Tel: +44 7759 282586 Email: l.scholey(a)lukescholey.co.uk WWW.LUKESCHOLEY.CO.UK All feedback and questions welcome. The site admin can be contacted at: webmaster(a)lukescholey.co.uk All content copyright © 2012-2019 LukeScholey.co.uk Confidentiality Notice: This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Disclaimer: Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses, LukeScholey.co.uk accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication.

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Andrew Hodgson 11 Feb '19

11 Feb '19

Hi, My experience with the VDI solutions is that they typically don't run using RDP directly. Users log in via a web session or using specific client software which orchestrates the creation of the desktop VM as well as set up the remote connection. It may be RDP going on somewhere at the back end but connecting via RDP straight is typically an admin only function. It is possible to get around this but that typically involves going outside the VDI solution or setting up an always on static VM somewhere else to do this. Also looking at the Azure managed desktop feature we see similar here as well, although it is possible to just set up a VM in a dedicated vnet. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Sent: 09 February 2019 00:45 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: Ryan Shugart Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age I agree, I think RDP/Citrix are still widely used. Many (not all) of the VDI solutions are using a fancy web interface, true, but its really just rapping around an RDP client meaning you can use traditional RDP to get in. I'm curious though, I know remote desktop is used heavily among IT pros to access servers for administration and in some cases other desktops for troubleshooting, how widely are these technologies used by rank and file employees? How many people work at companies who have gone/are going the thin client route and how has that impacted your ability to use a screen reader? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:26 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remote Desktop in the modern age Hi, The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? Discuss. Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch?
by Zameer Mahomed 10 Feb '19

10 Feb '19

Hi Katherine, Just out of interest, were you able to get ESXi up and running by yourself? If yes, what would be the best way to go about installing it? Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 10:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? RAS is your best bet; VMware, at least in my experience, will eventually screw you over. The server edition of ESXi, at least, does. You're hit a licensing limit that won't let you set up any VMs; my group tried it. -----Original Message----- From: Zameer Mahomed <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:14 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? Hi Katherine, Thanks for the reply. Yeah, my searches have lead me to suggestions where people have RAS installed on a dedicated vm for this sort of thing. Funny enough, when I used VMware, I havent bothered with this connectivity issue as it took care of it for me. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 9:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? Sounds like you need a router to serve as the gateway; if you're behind a NAT interface, then, you'll need something to get you onto the internet. You'l have to use RAS as a router only to do that. I've not looked at this in a long time, but that's the basic principle. -----Original Message----- From: Zameer Mahomed <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:00 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? Hi Listers, for those of you using Hyper-V, My scenario is that I would like to have an internal switch but have this switch connected to the Internet. I understand this is possible via NAT. I am currently using Windows 10 enterprise, build 1803. Using powershell, I have done the following: New-VMSwitch -SwitchName Internal -SwitchType Internal the interface index of the switch I just created is 33. New-NetIPAddress -IPAddress 10.10.4.1 -PrefixLength 22 -InterfaceIndex 33 New-NetNat -Name External -InternalIPInterfaceAddressPrefix 10.10.4.0/22 I've gone in to the settings of a VM under network adapter, and selected the name of the switch I created earlier. I've also assigned the vm a static IP address and used 10.10.4.1 which I created earlier for the gateway. However, I am still unable to access the Internet. I am able to access other vm's and the host. Your help would be much appreciated please? Kind Regards Kind Regards _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch?
by Zameer Mahomed 10 Feb '19

10 Feb '19

Hi Katherine, Thanks for the reply. Yeah, my searches have lead me to suggestions where people have RAS installed on a dedicated vm for this sort of thing. Funny enough, when I used VMware, I havent bothered with this connectivity issue as it took care of it for me. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 9:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? Sounds like you need a router to serve as the gateway; if you're behind a NAT interface, then, you'll need something to get you onto the internet. You'l have to use RAS as a router only to do that. I've not looked at this in a long time, but that's the basic principle. -----Original Message----- From: Zameer Mahomed <core7xx(a)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 8:00 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch? Hi Listers, for those of you using Hyper-V, My scenario is that I would like to have an internal switch but have this switch connected to the Internet. I understand this is possible via NAT. I am currently using Windows 10 enterprise, build 1803. Using powershell, I have done the following: New-VMSwitch -SwitchName Internal -SwitchType Internal the interface index of the switch I just created is 33. New-NetIPAddress -IPAddress 10.10.4.1 -PrefixLength 22 -InterfaceIndex 33 New-NetNat -Name External -InternalIPInterfaceAddressPrefix 10.10.4.0/22 I've gone in to the settings of a VM under network adapter, and selected the name of the switch I created earlier. I've also assigned the vm a static IP address and used 10.10.4.1 which I created earlier for the gateway. However, I am still unable to access the Internet. I am able to access other vm's and the host. Your help would be much appreciated please? Kind Regards Kind Regards _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Hyper-v: Internet on an internal switch?
by Zameer Mahomed 10 Feb '19

10 Feb '19

Hi Listers, for those of you using Hyper-V, My scenario is that I would like to have an internal switch but have this switch connected to the Internet. I understand this is possible via NAT. I am currently using Windows 10 enterprise, build 1803. Using powershell, I have done the following: New-VMSwitch -SwitchName Internal -SwitchType Internal the interface index of the switch I just created is 33. New-NetIPAddress -IPAddress 10.10.4.1 -PrefixLength 22 -InterfaceIndex 33 New-NetNat -Name External -InternalIPInterfaceAddressPrefix 10.10.4.0/22 I've gone in to the settings of a VM under network adapter, and selected the name of the switch I created earlier. I've also assigned the vm a static IP address and used 10.10.4.1 which I created earlier for the gateway. However, I am still unable to access the Internet. I am able to access other vm's and the host. Your help would be much appreciated please? Kind Regards Kind Regards

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Ryan Shugart 09 Feb '19

09 Feb '19

I agree, I think RDP/Citrix are still widely used. Many (not all) of the VDI solutions are using a fancy web interface, true, but its really just rapping around an RDP client meaning you can use traditional RDP to get in. I'm curious though, I know remote desktop is used heavily among IT pros to access servers for administration and in some cases other desktops for troubleshooting, how widely are these technologies used by rank and file employees? How many people work at companies who have gone/are going the thin client route and how has that impacted your ability to use a screen reader? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:26 AM To: blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Remote Desktop in the modern age Hi, The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? Discuss. Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code
by Jason White 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

I generally work from the command line anyway, using git diff, and would recommend it. I find the GitHub table-based diffs harder to read. On 2/8/19 9:52 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in the little more quicker to look at option as I think personally that anything else in relation to code may make us miss something especially if it is not obvious. Unfortunately if you view a diff in Github or Visual Studio, the changes are highlighted and can be easily seen, but even then it only works for a small subset of changes - anything large and people start complaining that they can't tell the differences easily. > > I do a Git diff on a specific commit myself and find that works well, though it probably isn't quicker than a sighted person looking at the diff in a pull request. I find it especially irritating when people do comments in PRs, as it can be a right mare to try and find the correct line the comment is refering to, then reply to the comment in context. > > Andrew. > > ________________________________________ > From: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org] > Sent: 08 February 2019 13:07 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover; Jason White > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > If you're working with a document rather than lines of code in Git, you can always use word-diff, which shows the differences word by word rather than line by line. It can also take account of the syntax of the source file (e.g., TeX/LaTeX). > > On 2/8/19, 04:54, "Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > > Hi, > Thank you for your advice everyone. > I tried the diff command and created the patch. This looks just like > what I use to do with SVN, by using the show unified diff option. > This solution works, but i'm looking for something else which may be a > little more faster to look at. > > Kind regards, > Chamandeep singh Grover > > On 1/21/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the details here - this is something I have struggled with a lot > > recently especially given the comments section in pull requests on specific > > lines of code. I usually end up messing something down the line because of > > this. I used Github before and it was bearly ok, but VSTS really isn't > > helpful in this regard at the moment. > > > > Andrew. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jared Stofflett <stofflet(a)gmail.com> > > Sent: 21 January 2019 20:25 > > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > > > I use Bitbucket at work as well. After a pull request is open from the > > command-line I do the following git checkout develop git pull develop (these > > two commands insure I have the latest stable code for comparison.) git > > checkout pullrequestbranch git format-patch develop These last two commands > > will grab the code associated with a pull request, and for each commit not > > already in develop a patch file will be created with the differences between > > develop and the commit that has not been merged into develop. > > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jason White via Blind-sysadmins < > > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > > > >> I usually just run "git diff" from the shell, specifying the desired > >> revision or revisions, then review the output with my braille display. > >> > >> If it's a document rather than code, I use the --word-diff option. You > >> can also specify the desired syntax for word-diff, which is helpful if > >> you write LaTeX documents, as I do. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins > >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:16 AM > >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > >> Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789(a)googlemail.com> > >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> We have recently migrated over to git and using bitbucket. I am using > >> Jaws with Eclipse at the moment as my ide. > >> I wanted to ask for peoples' advice on carrying out code reviews and > >> seeing the differences between code versions. > >> > >> I am happy to try out a new ide such as visual studio code if it has > >> worked well for some people, but it is quite difficult at the moment > >> to understand the changes. > >> Previously when using SVN, I had this linked up with code compare, > >> which worked some what to alert changes. > >> > >> Any help/advice would be appreciated. > >> > >> Thank you > >> Chamandeep Singh Grover > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code
by Chamandeep Singh Grover 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

Hi, Thank you for your advice everyone. I tried the diff command and created the patch. This looks just like what I use to do with SVN, by using the show unified diff option. This solution works, but i'm looking for something else which may be a little more faster to look at. Kind regards, Chamandeep singh Grover On 1/21/19, Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the details here - this is something I have struggled with a lot > recently especially given the comments section in pull requests on specific > lines of code. I usually end up messing something down the line because of > this. I used Github before and it was bearly ok, but VSTS really isn't > helpful in this regard at the moment. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jared Stofflett <stofflet(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 21 January 2019 20:25 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code > > I use Bitbucket at work as well. After a pull request is open from the > command-line I do the following git checkout develop git pull develop (these > two commands insure I have the latest stable code for comparison.) git > checkout pullrequestbranch git format-patch develop These last two commands > will grab the code associated with a pull request, and for each commit not > already in develop a patch file will be created with the differences between > develop and the commit that has not been merged into develop. > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jason White via Blind-sysadmins < > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote: > >> I usually just run "git diff" from the shell, specifying the desired >> revision or revisions, then review the output with my braille display. >> >> If it's a document rather than code, I use the --word-diff option. You >> can also specify the desired syntax for word-diff, which is helpful if >> you write LaTeX documents, as I do. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chamandeep Singh Grover via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 8:16 AM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789(a)googlemail.com> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] seeing dcode differnces and reviewing code >> >> Hi All, >> >> We have recently migrated over to git and using bitbucket. I am using >> Jaws with Eclipse at the moment as my ide. >> I wanted to ask for peoples' advice on carrying out code reviews and >> seeing the differences between code versions. >> >> I am happy to try out a new ide such as visual studio code if it has >> worked well for some people, but it is quite difficult at the moment >> to understand the changes. >> Previously when using SVN, I had this linked up with code compare, >> which worked some what to alert changes. >> >> Any help/advice would be appreciated. >> >> Thank you >> Chamandeep Singh Grover >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Jason White 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

In Linux, development appears to be moving toward Pipewire (an audio/video routing service) and Wayland to enable remote desktop access. As far as I know, accessibility work hasn't been undertaken yet, but there is potential for it. The move from X11 to Wayland is not about to eliminate remote desktop access, contrary to the expectations of some observers. Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Thank you. How can I install it? Is RDP connection to a windows server is enough? Best. 2019-02-07 11:56 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: > No, if you have the remote access addon, it pulls over your licence from the > client. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 07 February 2019 08:56 > To: Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> > Cc: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; > Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > Do I need to activate with my license key on the same server as well? > So ıt needs 2 activation count, am I right? > Best. > > > 2019-02-07 11:27 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little > <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: >> It's an extra addon that you purchase. It'll tell you in the about >> dialog if you've got it. >> You can install the server through a command line switch, or if you >> just run the setup it should detect if you are running on a server and >> install the right components. I just use the command line switches to >> perform a silent server install >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: 07 February 2019 05:18 >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com>; Kieran.Little >> <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> >> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> Hello, >> >> Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have >> professional version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need >> to make a full installation to my remote server for Jaws? >> >> Best. >> >> 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: >>> We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just >>> have the server components installed on the servers I am responsible >>> for. >>> We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver >>> (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW >>> on there as I don't use it. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins >>> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 >>> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> >>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >>> >>> RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I >>> use it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does >>> (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), >>> as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of >>> communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for >>> personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my >>> servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for >>> me to remote at work yet. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM >>> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >>> >>> My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host >>> you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd >>> be interested to know otherwise. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to >>>> ask this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today >>>> giving enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix >>>> capabilities, but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix >>>> implementations these days, and more and more is being done with >>>> custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. >>>> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >>>> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >>>> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >>>> >>>> Discuss. >>>> Andrew. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >>> Save Time Do It Online! >>> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >>> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >>> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >>> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access >>> the relevant forms. >>> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >>> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >>> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >>> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >>> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email >>> in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >>> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >>> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >>> >>> [Northumberland County Council] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> Can Kırca >> >> Save Time Do It Online! >> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the >> relevant forms. >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in >> error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >> >> [Northumberland County Council] >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Do I need to activate with my license key on the same server as well? So ıt needs 2 activation count, am I right? Best. 2019-02-07 11:27 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk>: > It's an extra addon that you purchase. It'll tell you in the about dialog if > you've got it. > You can install the server through a command line switch, or if you just run > the setup it should detect if you are running on a server and install the > right components. I just use the command line switches to perform a silent > server install > > -----Original Message----- > From: Can Kırca <cankirca(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 07 February 2019 05:18 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)winterhillsolutions.com>; Kieran.Little > <kieran.little(a)northumberland.gov.uk> > Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > Hello, > > Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have professional > version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need to make a full > installation to my remote server for Jaws? > > Best. > > 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: >> We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have >> the server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. >> We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver >> (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW >> on there as I don't use it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins >> <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use >> it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does >> (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), >> as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of >> communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for >> personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my >> servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for me to >> remote at work yet. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM >> To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age >> >> My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host >> you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be >> interested to know otherwise. >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask >>> this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving >>> enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, >>> but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these >>> days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, >>> especially in the VDI space. >>> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >>> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >>> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >>> >>> Discuss. >>> Andrew. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >>> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> >> Save Time Do It Online! >> We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services >> easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council >> tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: >> www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the >> relevant forms. >> This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to >> whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that >> disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on >> the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in >> error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any >> computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or >> monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. >> >> [Northumberland County Council] >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > > > -- > Can Kırca > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Can Kırca 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Hello, Could you share some details about JFW remote license? I have professional version and I think Remote license is included. Do I need to make a full installation to my remote server for Jaws? Best. 2019-02-06 18:45 GMT+03:00, Kieran.Little via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org>: > We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have the > server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. > We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver (workspace) > client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW on there as I don't > use it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins > <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use it > both at the company where I work, or at least the company does (both > straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), as well as > using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of communicating with servers > on my local and off site networks for personal projects, on which I can > actually be productive since my servers have screen readers. Haven't figured > out the best method for me to remote at work yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age > > My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're > connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested > to know otherwise. > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask >> this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving >> enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, >> but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these >> days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially >> in the VDI space. >> What potential options do we have going forward, are the current >> access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is >> now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? >> >> Discuss. >> Andrew. >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- >> blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > Save Time Do It Online! > We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to > access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting > a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click > 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. > This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it > is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact > the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication > may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal > policy and relevant legislation. > > [Northumberland County Council] > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > -- Can Kırca

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Kieran.Little 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

We use RDP here a lot, and I have a JFW remote licence, so I just have the server components installed on the servers I am responsible for. We also have a citrix VDI infrastructure that uses the receiver (workspace) client to connect but I haven't investigated getting JFW on there as I don't use it. -----Original Message----- From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 06 February 2019 15:38 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Katherine M. Moss <KMoss(a)WinterHillSolutions.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age RDP has been, and still is, common. At least from my experience. I use it both at the company where I work, or at least the company does (both straight up RDP as well as Citrix implementations are in use), as well as using PowerShell and RDP as my primary methods of communicating with servers on my local and off site networks for personal projects, on which I can actually be productive since my servers have screen readers. Haven't figured out the best method for me to remote at work yet. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Barnes <samuellbarnes(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:09 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested to know otherwise. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask > this question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving > enough in accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, > but to be honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these > days, and more and more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. > What potential options do we have going forward, are the current > access methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is > now responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org Save Time Do It Online! We have made a few key improvements to our site to make our services easy to access. Now you can do everything from paying your council tax, to reporting a faulty street light online. Go to: www.northumberland.gov.uk and click 'pay, apply or report' to access the relevant forms. This email is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the email from any computer. All email communication may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with internal policy and relevant legislation. [Northumberland County Council]

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Re: Remote Desktop in the modern age
by Samuel Barnes 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

My understanding regarding VDI/remote GUI access is that the host you're connecting to has to provide the accessibility features. I'd be interested to know otherwise. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:27 AM Andrew Hodgson <andrew(a)hodgson.io> wrote: > Hi, > > The recent discussions on here for remote desktop have lead me to ask this > question. Are the remote desktop protocols used today giving enough in > accessibility? I know we have RDP and Citrix capabilities, but to be > honest I have seen very few Citrix implementations these days, and more and > more is being done with custom web plugins, especially in the VDI space. > What potential options do we have going forward, are the current access > methods likely to become outdated and who was responsible/is now > responsible for maintaining the access via the new protocols? > > Discuss. > Andrew. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave(a)lists.hodgsonfamily.org >

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