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SCCM 2012 SP1
by Ryan Shugart 28 Apr '13

28 Apr '13

Hi: Who here has SP1 installed in their SCCM 2012 environments? Microsoft told me last month there were major accessibility improvements in this version, but its taken me a while to get a test environment up and going. Our production environment is still on 2007 for obvious reasons, so I had to start from scratch in a test domain. Anyway, I'm not seeing a huge improvement in 2012 SP1 and was wondering if it was just me? Some of the controls that were not labeled before are now properly labeled. The ribbon still doesn't work at all but Microsoft admitted that to me. Quite a few lists, such as the all systems list and the list of boundaries don't read at all now. However, I'm wondering if this is an issue introduced in Window-Eyes 8.2, as this works properly in Narrator. In fact, the only lists that don't read properly now in Narrator are lists with only one item in them. And, that's another thing Microsoft admitted still wasn't working. So, I'd like to hear from others, particular other screen reader users, as to their experience with this? I'm going to go to GWMicro and find out why this no longer works in 8.2 anyway, but if it works fine in other screen readers, that is more of a push to them to fix this. Again, the lists I've tested are the list of all systems under device collections, and the boundary list under hierarchy configuration. Thanks. Ryan

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Cheapest Android handset that supports talkback
by Barry Toner 26 Apr '13

26 Apr '13

Hi, We are looking into replacing old Nokias with Android, for users who don't require iPhones. I am proposing we go for Android for cost. This will also allow me to have a platform that is supported by the Mobile Device Management system I have been implementing. I need to be able to support the handsets independently, hence why I've picked Android. I know next to nothing about Android. What price ranges do they live in, and if I were to by one today brand new from a phone supplier would they all come with the latest FW and Talk back either enabled or could be enabled by me straight from the handset independently? I am wondering how the other accessibility features of Android compare to that of iPhone? EG for people with vision impairments, learning disabilities, motor skills, hearing impairments? This would strengthen my argument to go for a smart phone over a feature phone as my organisation is Section75 compliant. I have other business reasons why I feel we should go for Android within our business context that I can push. Any information greatfully received! BTW. I'm hitting lists because time is very much a factor. Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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Cheapest Android handset that supports talkback
by Barry Toner 26 Apr '13

26 Apr '13

Hi, We are looking into replacing old Nokias with Android, for users who don't require iPhones. I am proposing we go for Android for cost. This will also allow me to have a platform that is supported by the Mobile Device Management system I have been implementing. I need to be able to support the handsets independently, hence why I've picked Android. I know next to nothing about Android. What price ranges do they live in, and if I were to by one today brand new from a phone supplier would they all come with the latest FW and Talk back either enabled or could be enabled by me straight from the handset independently? I am wondering how the other accessibility features of Android compare to that of iPhone? EG for people with vision impairments, learning disabilities, motor skills, hearing impairments? This would strengthen my argument to go for a smart phone over a feature phone as my organisation is Section75 compliant. I have other business reasons why I feel we should go for Android within our business context that I can push. Any information greatfully received! BTW. I'm hitting lists because time is very much a factor. Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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Installing an ssd drive, partition and operating system, unattended
by David Mehler 24 Apr '13

24 Apr '13

Hello, I've got a new SSD for my system. I am wanting to install win7 on it. I've read and heard from others that partition alignment on these drives is critical to getting optimum system performance. I've read that gparted can do this, align on zero boundaries? might be it? I've got a grml disk that I can boot live and have it do the gparted, is it simply a matter of creating the partition with gparted setting it's type to ntfs then using an fsck.ntfs to format it? I then want to do my win7 unattended install. I've got an xml file but it erases all partitions, and formats, which I get would defeat my gparted, I'm wanting to not do this and just have the unattend file install on to the previously created ntfs partition. But that also creates a small boot partition, so I'm wondering do I have to make this? If anyone has done this please let me know, i'd like to get the max performance out of my drive and have read that improperly partitioning can lead to extra ware on them. This is my first ssd. Also, how do you separate, or do you separate, programs from system data when using ssd's? Thanks. Dave.

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Backtrack Linux and Orca
by Greg B. 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Hello, I will be taking a computer security class in the fall. I am trying to do some research for the class and have come up with a couple of things that could present problems. They are nmap, Backtrack Linux and Orca. Does any one have experience with any of the above software packages? Greg B.

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Domain Wide Password Policies
by Sean Randall 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

Hi all, Just a quicky: is there any way, other than an MMC snap-in or from a domain controller's administrative tools, to set criteria for a domain-wide password policy? Ideally a command line tool with an answerfile would be amazing! Sorry I haven't contributed much to the list; not really my field yet and the stuff you guys talk about is often over my head. I do appreciate the assistance though and will try and chime in where I can! Sean. -- Sean Randall mailto:sr22473@my.open.ac.uk tel/sms::+44 (0) 7969662640 OUCU: sr22473 PI: C279004X

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Citrix ICA
by Barry Toner 08 Apr '13

08 Apr '13

Folks, I know I've mentioned Citrix on here before, but it's rearing its head again in work. I may need to access two pieces of software and I've asked how the two sighted techs would access it, with a view that I may be able to figure out a way I can do this with speech. I got the below reply, and would appreciate anyones views on weither this can be done with any form of Screen reader setup. "We would run them through a Citrix ICA connection - would you be accessing through a Citrix session (are you able to do this) or shadowing a user running an ICA session" Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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Citrix ICA
by Barry Toner 08 Apr '13

08 Apr '13

Folks, I know I've mentioned Citrix on here before, but it's rearing its head again in work. I may need to access two pieces of software and I've asked how the two sighted techs would access it, with a view that I may be able to figure out a way I can do this with speech. I got the below reply, and would appreciate anyones views on weither this can be done with any form of Screen reader setup. "We would run them through a Citrix ICA connection - would you be accessing through a Citrix session (are you able to do this) or shadowing a user running an ICA session" Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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Installing an ssd drive, partition and operating system, unattended
by David Mehler 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Hello, I've got a new SSD for my system. I am wanting to install win7 on it. I've read and heard from others that partition alignment on these drives is critical to getting optimum system performance. I've read that gparted can do this, align on zero boundaries? might be it? I've got a grml disk that I can boot live and have it do the gparted, is it simply a matter of creating the partition with gparted setting it's type to ntfs then using an fsck.ntfs to format it? I then want to do my win7 unattended install. I've got an xml file but it erases all partitions, and formats, which I get would defeat my gparted, I'm wanting to not do this and just have the unattend file install on to the previously created ntfs partition. But that also creates a small boot partition, so I'm wondering do I have to make this? If anyone has done this please let me know, i'd like to get the max performance out of my drive and have read that improperly partitioning can lead to extra ware on them. This is my first ssd. Also, how do you separate, or do you separate, programs from system data when using ssd's? Thanks. Dave.

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Red hat enterprise certifications.
by Sean Murphy 29 Mar '13

29 Mar '13

Hi team. Has anyone sat the Red Hat Enterprise certifications or use the Red Hat enterprise 6.2 OS? If so, did you use Orca, Speakup or what screen reader did you use to permit console access at the CLI or Gnome? What barriers did you come across? Any help would be grate. Sean

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Teamviewer with NVDA
by Barry Toner 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

Folks, I've successfully been able to control a remote computer using Teamviewer v8 with speech feedback from NVDA, with some issues that can hopefully be overcome The setup was minimal. Install TeamViewer on both systems, with no special configurations. Connect to the remote computer. In my experiment I had NVDA running already, but you could simply ask an end-user to start it from an icon on the desktop. When I pressed WinKey E, TeamViewer recognised this as a keystroke and prompted for me to pass keystrokes through, which I did. All keystrokes are passed through with the exception of Ctrl, Alt, Delete, and the numPad, which the latter is a bit disappointing because no Object Nav/Review cursor , or modifier key on the remote end. To perform the Ctrl Alt, Delete keystrokes you seem to be required to click on the Actions menu in the TeamViewer main toolbar , which is outside of the session. The only way I have found to get out of the main session window as alt, tab is being passed through to the session is pressing, ctrl, alt, del which brings up task manager on the controlling PC. Switch to the Applications tab, then choose a window to switch too. Alt tabbing back to the TeamViewer window will then pass the keystrokes back into the session. Exploring this screen with NVDA's Object Nav I can see the minimise, resize, and maxamise icons, a toolbar which wont' let me interactive with, and something that just says TV3. Right clicking or left clicking using Object Nav does nothing. Has anyone been able to get this action menu activated through the keyboard? Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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Teamviewer with NVDA
by Barry Toner 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

Folks, I've successfully been able to control a remote computer using Teamviewer v8 with speech feedback from NVDA, with some issues that can hopefully be overcome The setup was minimal. Install TeamViewer on both systems, with no special configurations. Connect to the remote computer. In my experiment I had NVDA running already, but you could simply ask an end-user to start it from an icon on the desktop. When I pressed WinKey E, TeamViewer recognised this as a keystroke and prompted for me to pass keystrokes through, which I did. All keystrokes are passed through with the exception of Ctrl, Alt, Delete, and the numPad, which the latter is a bit disappointing because no Object Nav/Review cursor , or modifier key on the remote end. To perform the Ctrl Alt, Delete keystrokes you seem to be required to click on the Actions menu in the TeamViewer main toolbar , which is outside of the session. The only way I have found to get out of the main session window as alt, tab is being passed through to the session is pressing, ctrl, alt, del which brings up task manager on the controlling PC. Switch to the Applications tab, then choose a window to switch too. Alt tabbing back to the TeamViewer window will then pass the keystrokes back into the session. Exploring this screen with NVDA's Object Nav I can see the minimise, resize, and maxamise icons, a toolbar which wont' let me interactive with, and something that just says TV3. Right clicking or left clicking using Object Nav does nothing. Has anyone been able to get this action menu activated through the keyboard? Thanks, Barry. Barry Toner ICT Assistant ICT Department Clanmil Housing Northern Whig House 3 Waring Street Belfast BT1 2DX Tel: 02890 876000 Fax: 02890 876001

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accessibility of backtrack
by David Mehler 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

Hello, Has anyone got backtrack going with speech? I've got some projects that I might be needing to use it. Thanks. Dave.

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Kali Linux
by Andrew Hodgson 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

Hi, For those who were looking at Backtrack now try Kali Linux: http://www.kali.org/ Andrew.

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Kali Linux
by Andrew Hodgson 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

Hi, For those who were looking at Backtrack now try Kali Linux: http://www.kali.org/ Andrew.

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Cisco Vision Presents: How to build a basic web site
by Stephen Guerra 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Date: Friday, March 22, 2013 Time: 9:00 PM until 11:00 PM eastern Where: Team Talk Server through Curtin University Center for Accesible Technology Monica Willyard who teaches the HTML5 and CSS Course through Cisco Visions and Curtin University Center for Accessible Technology will be giving a seminar which will be recorded as a podcast, on how to build a basic web site. This two hour seminar will be held on the CiscoVisions Team Talk server address of: tt.cucat.org Please note: (use the default ports as provided when setting up your Team Talk Channel for this seminar) What you should have: It is best that if you want to participate in this seminar, that you use a Headset with microphone. If you do not have a headset combination with Microphone, a stand-a-alone microphone plus a headset will work as well. For the benefit of all, if you want to participate and not have the annoyance of feedback, then you should avoid using a microphone with speakers. Downloading Team Talk You can download Team Talk from the following link: Windows: http://download.bearware.dk/teamtalk/v4.4/TeamTalk_v4.4_Setup.exe For the Mac: http://download.bearware.dk/teamtalk/v4.4/TeamTalk_v4.4_Setup.dmg Curtin University Center for Accessible Technology If you would like to know more about the many courses given through Cisco Visions, and would like to take part in the online courses please visit: http://www.ciscovision.org BlindTech is owned by Michael Capelle: MichaelCapelle(a)charter.net To send a message to the list BlindTech(a)lists.BlindTech-List.info To search list archives: http://lists.blindtech-list.info/pipermail/blindtech-blindtech-list.info/ If you have any questions about this list, or the day-to-day opperations, please don't send those questions on list, instead, please write: blindtech-owner(a)lists.blindtech-list.info To manage your subscription options, go to http://lists.blindtech-list.info/options.cgi/blindtech-blindtech-list.info

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accessibility of backtrack
by David Mehler 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Hello, Has anyone got backtrack going with speech? I've got some projects that I might be needing to use it. Thanks. Dave.

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Calculator
by Greg B. 22 Mar '13

22 Mar '13

Hello Everyone, Can anyone recommend a good accessible calculator that is capable of working with numbers in various formats such as binary, hex and decimal? The windows calculator does ok but it can be a little bit of a pain in the butt to do a lot of work on conversions of numbers. Thanks, Greg B.

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Learning Windows Server
by Steve Matzura 18 Mar '13

18 Mar '13

Anyone got a good starter resource for learning either of the three versions of WS out there--2003, 2008, or the new 2012--either free or on the cheap? I don't know if I'm quite ready for a five-day Microsoft course, and I surely don't have five-day Microsoft course money, but the title of a good thirty-five-dollar book would not go unappreciated. TIA

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Domain Wide Password Policies
by Sean Randall 16 Mar '13

16 Mar '13

Hi all, Just a quicky: is there any way, other than an MMC snap-in or from a domain controller's administrative tools, to set criteria for a domain-wide password policy? Ideally a command line tool with an answerfile would be amazing! Sorry I haven't contributed much to the list; not really my field yet and the stuff you guys talk about is often over my head. I do appreciate the assistance though and will try and chime in where I can! Sean. -- Sean Randall mailto:sr22473@my.open.ac.uk tel/sms::+44 (0) 7969662640 OUCU: sr22473 PI: C279004X

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Is this list still active?
by Steve Matzura 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

I've been subscribed for a day now and find it most unusual not to have received a single message.

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Which antivirus do you find the most accessible
by Mario Perčinić 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

Hy. I remember the days when about 10 years ago we could choose from diferent tools for antivirus, from basic to very advanced one, and almost all of them were accessible. However, today the situation doesn’t look nice at all with new versions coming out which are becoming more and more inaccessible. If we exclude ms security essentials which could be ok for home user, wich tool do you find the most accessible and usable with screen readers? Thanks for the answer Mario

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Windows Accessible Network Scanner
by David Mehler 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

Hello, I'm looking for a Windows network scanner that is screen reader friendly, free/open source prefered. I've tried on a recommendation one called Advanced IP Network Scanner, tried that with both jfw and NVDA and I couldn't get anything out of it with either screen reader. My thinking was it is a qt application, which NVDA in my experience does much better with. Well, it wasn't. I'm wondering if it is a great graphic. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.

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Windows Accessible Network Scanner
by David Mehler 28 Feb '13

28 Feb '13

Hello, I'm looking for a Windows network scanner that is screen reader friendly, free/open source prefered. I've tried on a recommendation one called Advanced IP Network Scanner, tried that with both jfw and NVDA and I couldn't get anything out of it with either screen reader. My thinking was it is a qt application, which NVDA in my experience does much better with. Well, it wasn't. I'm wondering if it is a great graphic. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave.

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printing to a file?
by David Mehler 28 Feb '13

28 Feb '13

Hello, I'm wondering is it possible to print something to a virtual printer like send something to a file? Then print it later in paper form? Thanks. Dave.

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