Darragh:
I'm sorry you're having issues with the O365 admin interface, I am able to get what I need done using JAWS and Edge Chromium, but agree the UI can be very confusing especially if you don't need to go into the admin interface much. I recently had to mess with the licensing on my personal tenant and while I got what I needed done the UI was laid out in a very confusing way. I've said this before, but everyone having problems with this, please email edad@microsoft.com if you haven't already. We need to get these bugs open for the O365 team, and the only way we can impress upon them that this is a problem is to get them user feedback. So don't hesitate and don't hold back. Make sure EDAD knows your frustrations.
I'm really glad you are having a good experience, on the other hand, with Windows Admin Center, I've been personally working with that team quite a bit, and they still have some bugs to clean up, but honestly that product has come a long way from where it was a few years ago and I'm glad to hear the feedback from a customer, we don't hear much about that product.
Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Darragh Ó Héiligh
Reply-To: Mailing list for blind system administrators
Date: Monday, April 27, 2020 at 3:54 PM
To: Mailing list for blind system administrators
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: JAWS ANO365 admin centers
Andrew,
Well done on providing such clear instructions. I use the various Microsoft portals daily and it annoys me to the point of rage the keyboard acrobatics that are required. Menus that can be expanded don't say. Some navigation is through a list view, some is through a tree view, some is through standard links. Sometimes buttons are incorrectly marked as tabs, the list goes on and on.
But then Microsoft do really well in other areas. Such as the clean UI for the Windows admin centre.
I just wish there was consistency.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hodgson
Sent: Monday 27 April 2020 4:54 p.m.
To: Mailing list for blind system administrators
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: JAWS ANO365 admin centers
Hi,
Just tested in latest Chrome and Chromium Edge:
Go to admin.microsoft.com and log in.
You are now in the admin portal of Microsoft 365, use down arrow and when you hear users etc press enter to go into the menu.
You can now cursor up and down through the menu and expand the items as required, although it doesn't tell you whether it can be expanded, once you expand the item by hitting enter it will tell you its been expanded.
At the bottom of the menu is a show more option which gives you a new menu, in there you can go into all admin centers. Once you do this you need to tab out of the menu where you can then find the link to the admin center you want.
Hope this helps.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Hergert
Sent: 27 April 2020 16:37
To: Mailing list for blind system administrators
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] JAWS ANO365 admin centers
Hi timmothy,
This is Troy from the blind sys admins list. You've helped me before with jaws and the o365 admin centers. I'm taking an online course on O365 but have ongoing trouble getting jaws to navigate the O365 admin center. I need to be able to bring up the list of all my admin centers. I go to Admin.microsoft.com, log in as global admin. Expand the apps menu, locate admin in the apps list and hit space bar. That's supposed to present me with all my admin centers but jaws does not find that list. Can you advise me how to bring up the admin centers so Jaws can read it?
Using jaws 2020 and IE.
Thanks.
Troy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Spaulding
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Mailing list for blind system administrators
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Screen sharing with Microsoft Teams
Hi,
You should send this issue to edad@microsoft.com to be sure they are aware of it; they may be able to suggest any additional workarounds to the below.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kieran Little via Blind-sysadmins
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:36 AM
To: 'Mailing list for blind system administrators'
Cc: Kieran Little
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Screen sharing with Microsoft Teams
I am getting this all the time with teams ATM, no matter what I am doing.
Using both NVDA latest stable build and JFW 2020. I've found the way to get around it is to restore the window and then maximise it again. Started happening a couple of weeks ago.
You have Microsoft Teams Version 1.3.00.4461 (64 bit). It was last updated on 09/03/2020.
Kieran Little
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nestrud
Sent: 31 March 2020 16:01
To: Blind sysadmins list
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Screen sharing with Microsoft Teams
Lately I've been using screen sharing in Microsoft Teams so that one or more coworkers can watch what I'm doing. The actual sharing part works well, but when I go back into the Teams window to end sharing, I'm unable to tab to any controls. The only way that I've found to end sharing is to press alt+f4 which also ends the call. Has anyone else come across this problem?
Versions:
JAWS 2019.1912.19
You have Microsoft Teams Version 1.3.00.4461 (64-bit). It was last updated on 3/6/20.
Chris
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