All, It is everyone's fault, not just one company. There are products that Microsoft sell which are not accessible as well which should be. There are products from other router companies which are also not accessible. If companies (developers) do not use the Java Swing Accessibility libraries, then you are already behind the eight ball. Pushing the Screen Reading companies might not work even, since the larger multi national companies wouldn't talk to them because they aren't in the same world of business. The bottom line is that we have to make these comapnies aware that the whole disability community is a market force and it is wise to design their products to be university accessible. Now, how do you do that? I do have ideas. But I don't know how to kick them off or even if the disability community as a whole would back my idea. Sean