I too always export tabular data to either text or CSV ... not to mention, with the format-list or format-table cmdlet specified prior to the export. I have found the output seems to be all over the place without either cmdlet. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 3:52 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] commandline administration Hi, I copy tabular data to the clipboard and paste it into something else to work with it. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins Sent: 09 December 2016 19:19 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] commandline administration Hello Darragh and Katherine: We are aware of the Powershell ISE issues and many of them are on the MS end, we are working with the ISE team to determine next steps. At the moment this is only an option with the NVDA screen reader, but you may want to try using Visual Studio Code (its free) to edit Powershell. Katherine, you are correct in that normal copy and paste commands are now available in Windows 10's console windows. However, if you switched back to the legacy console, which you may have done as some 3RD party screen readers do not yet support the newer console windows, you cannot use those commands. The tables issue is very interesting and one that's causing a lot of conversation right now on my team. Do you export a lot of tabular output from Powershell to other formats such as HTML to read in a web browser? I don't believe Bash and other commandlines have this ability natively, how do other people work with tabular data in a command prompt today? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 6:59 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] commandline administration I've noticed the same thing with ISE ... and cutting and pasting should be easier in Windows 10; isn't it set to our normal shortcut keystrokes by default now? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 4:18 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] commandline administration Hello Ryan, I have had issues using PowerShell ISE with Jaws. Do you happen to know if this is something that FS needs to fix or is it for MS to work on? Specifically my issues are with character reading using the left and right arrows and back spacing. I like the intellysense provided by PowerShell ISE so would consider using it more regularly than the standard PowerShell client. Also, the command list is shown by default however I don't seem to be able to get into it with the keyboard. When I manage to get into it, Jaws becomes very unresponsive and I am unable to read the contents. There is one thing I really miss in the CLI. But I have no idea how it could be done. When outputting a command that displays columns, it would be really nice to be able to read those columns more efficiently. The optimal of course would be to have jaws table navigation but I really don't know how that would be done. Considering that the columns are just spaces. Take something as simple as dir for example. Another thing that I find a little challenging is copying the output of the screen. Yes, I could pipe the commands into a text file but sometimes you just want to copy and paste everything from the screen. This is fine if you don't need to scroll back but scrolling back can be hit and miss. Regards Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Friday 9 December 2016 00:53 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] commandline administration Hello everyone: While the topics of commandlines and administration was still on everyone's mind, I wanted to throw a question out there. For those who primarily use the commandline for administration, be it Bash, Powershell, whatever, if you could wave a magic wand and have anything you wanted in a commandline interface, what would it be? In otherwords, what could someone do to make your commandline experience even better than it is today? For those of you who are primarily using the GUI for administration, what would make you shift more to the CLI? Thanks. 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