Hi, Yes this is it, what happens is if you arrow through the list, you hear the old entry read out in its full form (i.e, the whole window title), followed by the new entry. If you down and up arrow quickly, it will fix this. I used this before on Windows XP using the old Windows Server 2003 remote admin tools, so this is a bit of a step up for me. Thanks. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart [rshugart@pcisys.net] Sent: 30 November 2009 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Active Directory management tools on Windows 7 Andrew: I'm not entirely sure what you mean by items not updating. When you are in the tree view and hit down arrow, do you hear the old item instead of the item you moved to? I see that all the time in Window-Eyes, but I've seen this since Vista. Its a timing issue, the screen reader somehow thinks you've moved down when you haven't yet. I'm not sure why it wouldn't know that focus hasn't actually changed, but it doesn't. Its bad in MMC3 based apps. although I'm finding the SCCM MMC is even worse because it takes so long to refresh anything in that tree view, remote or otherwise. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:16 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Active Directory management tools on Windows 7 Hi all, Not sure whether this is an MMC thing, but a lot of the new admin tools on Windows 7 are having a small issue in the tree view, whereby when you arrow through it, the information that Jaws speaks is not updated. I am going to try WindowEyes with this at some point when I get home, I am doing the bulk of the upgrades here at work at the moment as I have just upgraded the AD environment to Windows Server 2008 R2, and am using the remote administration tool pack to do the bulk of the upgrade work. Thanks. Andrew. -- allpay achieved PCI DSS and ISO 27001 certification in 2008 Registered in England No. 02933191. UK VAT Reg. No. 666 9148 88. Telephone: 0844 225 5729, Fax: 0844 557 8350. Website: www.allpay.net Email: enquiries@allpay.net This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the allpay Information Security Manager at the number above. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins