I have some rather deep PHP questions that I need answered in order to solve an implementation problem. If this isn't the right place to talk about PHP, even though I consider it a system administration function, I'd very much appreciate a good mailing list name to go to to post the following. I have spent the past three full days trying to learn and understand how to implement secure Web access using SSL on Apache 2.4.10. I got basic password-based authentication to work over port 80, but I'd like to take that a step further--use port 443, use SSL, and make that all-important "s" appear in the user's address bar. I have SSL certificates of all kinds--a certified and signed certificate for my Website, a private key of course, and the intermediate key from the certifying authority. These all work. I know they work because I am using them on my Dovecot+Postfix email system successfully. I could probably cite ten or more articles I've read, most from the Apache Software Foundation itself, on how to set this up, but nothing I'm doing is working, which means I must be missing some key thing. When I browse to my site on port 443 by using https, I get 403 forbidden and have no idea why. If anybody knows what the very basic things I should be doing are, I'd appreciate having that knowledge as well. I've tried so many variants of SSL directives and options, and nothing changes, which probably means the options and directives I'm using do not apply to my situation or need, but there must be some basic ones required to start with, and that's what I'm looking for. Again, if this is the wrong place to ask about detailed PHP stuff, a redirection to a place that is would be greatly appreciated, with my thanks in advance.