Fellas, I am beginning to think I've been outa the biz too long when I start looking at the MySQL management tools around these days. Why do they have to make it so wiz-bang complicated? All I want is a nice navigable screen with database names to open, tables to walk up and down, table definitions without a lot of drop-down choices with buttons JAWS cannot find, and a forms definitions language that's not all drag and drop to create something that's user-friendly/user-useable and accessible all at the same time. Am I asking for the moon here? 30 years ago when I was writing order entry systems, we had relational databases with a dozen relational tables that were easier to maintain than what I'm llooking at tonight. Seriously, is it me, or what? The most I can do with the EMS stuff is select databases to register in the product. I cannot open them, cannot view or create tables in them, nothing. TIA.