Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Microsoft training question

Hello, What I have done in this situation was explained to the teachers in the college that I can't use the remote access methods they are using, and if they could either give me the VHDs, VHDXs, or vmdk files. They usually are happy to do that. This has been the best solution, and the teachers really don't seem to mind. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:44 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Microsoft training question Hi all, Isn’t this a form of discrimination If you are paying good money to do a course and they provide the equipment to the students. Then you should be able to receive the same level of access to the software and training manual. How this is achieved is up to the company. You shouldn’t have to provide the same software to perform the training. Providing your own Assistive Technology is different. Is it possible a breach of the 508 rehab act? I am also thinking of the new up coming blind admin’s who haven’t the experience or access to the older method of providing training with dedicated server’s in the class room. They might not have the same skill level as other’s on this list. Hence will fail in achieving their end goal in becoming a system admin in Windows if they come across these type’s of barriers. Sean

On 16 Aug 2015, at 2:53 am, Ryan Shugart wrote:

Thanks everyone. As far as bringing your own machine and running the resources yourself, how does that work as far as setup goes? The labs for the Microsoft courses usually require the machines be built at a specific way (AKA a specific domain set up in a certain way) and some of the more advanced ones even have multiple machines at different states to demonstrate different product features or to duplicate a specific situation you’re supposed to troubleshoot. I think MS gives the pre-configured virtual machines to the training center, but I don’t think that I as a student could get access to them, and I would think that duplicating the configs would be pretty time consuming? Ryan

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On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Kelly Prescott wrote:

The college I am studying at does something like this, and in a word, ease of deployment and config. They never have to setup or reconfig machines as each new instantiated lab has the correct setup. Also, they don't need compute resources on-site as most of the load can be remote. so they might have thin clients deployed all over, and only one server farm to supply the entire network. This doesn't help us, but There are ways to work around it. I do something similar to what you do. I have a beefy laptop that runs vmware and I can run virtual machines in that, and that is how I handle it. This does not fix all problems, but it does help and most people will listen to reason when you ask to use your own resources. kp

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015, David Thomas wrote:

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Hello, I have found that the way training companies are doing it now is really unproductive. What I do is have a set of machines all pre-configured (10 of them), and then import them on Hyper-V. I don't use the system they use, and they mainly seem fine with it. I don't understand the reasoning for this new system. It doesn't really represent industry, or anything of that sort.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 12:13 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Microsoft training question

We have struggled with the same thing here in the Boston area. I remember when New Horizons used to offer courses with actual server software running on the local boxes. This is defenetly a problematic trend.

-Mika @pyyhkala -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:08 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Microsoft training question

Hi everyone: I was scheduled to take an advanced Windows Server 2012R2 course from a local Microsoft training center in a few weeks, but it looks like that may have ran into some problems. The training center used to be very traditional with these courses, a local instructor and for labs they had a workstation in front of you with a few Hyper-V virtual machines. With a little Window-Eyes tweaking it went very well. But now, half the time the instructors are remote, and they have some strange way of running the labs off a central server that doesn’t use traditional remote desktop. I went through this before with New Horizons in my area, and even after showing them how to make accommodations for me, they just didn’t want to talk about it or even consider it. So I went to this other place and now that they’ve been bought out they’re starting to do the same thing. So, I’m wondering if anyone has a good experience with a training center they’d be willing to pass on? I’m all about technical books and setting up test labs yourself, but sometimes there’s still a good place for a good vendor training course. Thanks. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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