John, I’m with myou my understanding is even at normal sound pressure levels you can have damage. Also, your ears tighten as time goes by and you end up turning up the gain to compensate. Listening to anything over time will cause you to turn up the gain.
On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:30 PM, John G Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
How do you know that listening to normal speech using head or ear phones will not damage hearing?
On 08/27/2015 01:16 PM, Angel wrote:
Listening to normal speech using head or ear phones will not damage hearing. Personally I loath hearing screen reader through external speakers. When I know those using them, and this includes me, could just as easily listen to them through ear or head phones. Sighted people object to olfactory assaults with aromas such as cigarette smoke and the smells of various perfumes. They object to overly loud music as well. So why do we offend them, and do we offend each other by forcing them to listen to screen readers. Which often are played at faster speeds than they are use to hearing. Causing them to equate what is intelligible speech, for our ears, with gibberish. I don't even allow them to hear my cellular phones screen reader. For the same reason. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] headphones (was: teraterm)
I'd prefer not to wear headphones because I figure that can't be good for your hearing. I know there are studies that show that listening to loud music with headphones damages your hearing. I am unaware of any studies that show that listening to speech at a normal level damages your hearing. But why take the chance?
Having said that though, I am wearing a headset right now. I don't want my co-workers listening over my shoulder as it were. I know they'd prefer not to listen but I figure sometimes they can't help it. It's not just that I don't want them knowing my business. I'm not going to listen to porn or anything. But if I'm struggling with something, I don't want them over hearing.
I've compromised on wearing my headset over just one ear. I always use my left ear so if I lose hearing in that ear, it will probably be because of the headset.
On 08/27/2015 10:07 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
That would be a fine thing if someone compromised a machine because they over heard a password on a screen reader. Wow! Imagine that one. I’ve never thought about it much but that’s a pretty big risk. I always use headphones which is probably why I never thought about it but if someone really wanted to they could probably pick up the signal from my cans.
Well
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, John G Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
I've been a linux user for a while now but when I used Windows and openssh, I had a problem in that jaws would speak my password as I typed it in. I wrote a jaws script to stop that. I don't know if it would still work but here it is:
http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/pub/program.jss
On 08/27/2015 05:34 AM, Jen Bottom wrote:
I have OpensSH installed on a Windows box at work and that works fine for connecting to other machines.
I use a 'config' file in my user's '.ssh' directory for managing keys etc.
I think iti came with GitBash, but you might well be able to get it via Chocolaty, if you kike that sort of package manager, or just download it from the net.
I used to use Putty for connecting in when working at home, but I found it a lot of faff. Give me a nice config file any day :)
Hope this helps, Jen!
On 8/24/15, Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> wrote: > Emphasis on the simple--they don't provide the insert-q info. > > If you press ctrl-shft-r, they should toggle between reading and > ignoring > incoming text. > > The scripts are named "ssh" because that is what JFW is expecting > for this > program. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> >> wrote: >> >> Chris: >> >> I downloaded your scripts and SecureCRT, but have a >> question/problem. >> All the scripts are for ssh, but the SecureCRT program isn't called >> that. How do I know they're in service, especially since I didn't >> find >> any I didn't find any ScriptFileName function, so I put one in, and >> when I press JAWS Key Q, JAWS tells me I'm running the default >> scripts. >> >>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:57:11 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>> I use Secure CRT and some very simple JAWS scripts for screen >>> echo that I >>> wrote and >>> placed here: >>> >>> http://chrisnestrud.com/projects/jfw/scrt >>> >>> Chris >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 07:33:21PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: >>>> I think something broke after Jaws 12 or so. Teraterm wasn't >>>> bad with >>>> the >>>> simple modification I found on one of the Cavi archives on the >>>> net until >>>> you >>>> try to apply that to 13 and up, and it kind of falls apart. I >>>> think we >>>> probably have to find a different way to edit files on the remote >>>> machine >>>> though because we can't stay in Jaws 12 forever just for TT to >>>> work >>>> good. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" >>>> <sm@noisynotes.com> >>>> To: "Blind sysadmins list" >>>> <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] TeraTerm >>>> >>>> >>>> That's what I do with TT now. I'm trying to get away from that >>>> mess. >>>> TT often loses cursor track. I'm noticing the same thing with >>>> PUTTY. >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:26:46 +0000, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Putty: use the jaws cursor to reed >>>>> >>>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>>> Fr?n: Blind-sysadmins >>>>> [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] F?r >>>>> Steve >>>>> Matzura >>>>> Skickat: den 17 augusti 2015 20:59 >>>>> Till: Blind sysadmins list >>>>> <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>>>> ?mne: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] TeraTerm >>>>> >>>>> How much better is putty with JAWS than TeraTerm? I tried it, >>>>> and found >>>>> I >>>>> have to read every line manuallly once I'm connected to the other >>>>> system. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:33:50 +0000, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Go ahead and check out putty or secure CRT. Putty is free, >>>>>> Secure >>>>>> CRT >>>>>> is $99ish and has a jaws script that works with it. Putty is >>>>>> very >>>>>> good >>>>>> though, supports ssh and lots of other protocols including >>>>>> serial. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a better solution for ssh-ing than this? There's a >>>>>>> simple >>>>>>> JAWS script I use with it, but it has quirks and annoyances >>>>>>> which >>>>>>> make me wonder sometimes how I get anything at all done with >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> Soon >>>>>>> as I get my Raspberry Pi set up as an ssh terminal, I'll >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> ditch the whole TeraTerm thing, but if there's something >>>>>>> better, or >>>>>>> something that can be changed in the script I have for it, >>>>>>> I'm all >>>>>>> about trying it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >
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