Billy, some of the network devices you mention may be even more accessible to you than your operating systems choices. For example, Cisco and Juniper equipment on the network side is very much CLI based and can be accessed with the most basic of terminal programs. Just like you’ll log in to your remote linux devices with SSH you would various routers and switches. Even today with the GUI options most network engineers use the CLI option exclusively. Same with telephone equipment. Lots of phone switches are CLI based as are the soft switches like Freeswitch and Asterisk. Devices like SIP to TDM gateways and session border controllers are also CLI based. I’m actually thinking of working on an E911 project which is why I mention this to you. I find it interesting you were working in that space. Good luck
On Nov 25, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Billy Irwin <billy.irwin@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi John,
In my case, I've had to work on many different systems that run Windows and Linux. I've also recently been dealing with the Mac. When I started in I.T. straight out of high school in 2002 as the county's I.T. Director, I got my feet wet quickly. At that time I had better vision. One of the most critical systems I was responsible for was the E911 system. I managed everything network wise to telephone Centrex and PBX. I would love to continue in that line of things but sadly the limitations scare the crap out of me. After not having a degree, I've recently went back to school and will graduate in the spring with an Associate's degree in Network Systems Management. Like you, I would prefer to just do Linux. I am well versed with it. What is more frustrating is something like VMWare vSphere. The list could go on. I've worked with Citrix Server and I found it fairly useful. I could still see to use it. I have to use high contrast. As stated though, my condition is progressive and it just bothers me that more isn't being done. Just as I love working with Linux, I wan't to continue with Windows since Active Directory in the enterprise is still very much common place.
Kind Regards,
Billy
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:43 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)
I don't think that I have ever had to install Windows for my job. I am a linux systems admin. I just think those of us who have made it owe it to the people coming up to do the best we can for them. After all, most of us have benefitted from the work done by those who came before. Anyone on this list contributed a line of code to a screen reader? Anyone on this list responsible for getting those 508 regulations pushed through? The reason Mac OS comes with a screen reader is because of those regulations. We have all benefitted from the hard work of the people who came before us. Pay it forward.
On 11/25/2016 05:47 PM, Billy Irwin wrote:
Hi All,
I am very much affected by this.When asking several years ago, I got the same answers. So many of the vendors should be making their systems backend accessible to I.T. professionals that are blind/visually impaired. As I get older, my vision is decreasing to the point that TTS is becoming more useful but less available. This even leads me to wonder what my future in I.T. is going to be. I am more than interested in helping the cause.
Thanks,
Billy
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:47 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)
I think there is probably something to this... I once asked how come the NFB wasn't more aggressive in trying to get some accessibility stuff done for some Microsoft server related things, and the response I got was is that it did not get enough media attention and therefore things that were more publicity oriented would be done. When I delved into this, I was also handed the line that it was only relavent to a small amount of people... So I guess it has to be "big" and a lot of people must be effected for the blindness organizations to even attempt it. These were not by any means all the people in the organization, but it is a fact that the membership tends to "blindly" follow the leadership... ;)
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:35 AM To: jheim@math.wisc.edu; Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] talking installs (was encryyption)
Remember though, his point of view was paid for and I do dispute his point of view. Lack of talking installs is a barrier to employment. I know many discouraged from entering the computer sciences and technical space for this reason as I’m sure do you. I firmly believe that Freedom Scientific paid for that point of view creating a dependency on JFW where Microsoft could have built better and more integrated accessibility options much like Apple has and you see in the Linux distributions. We know that Ted Center gave the NFB a 7 figure check on more than one occasion to preserve the NFB’s position that the only solution was ones provided by FS and in fact stimulated protests in Redmond against Microsoft’s internal accessibility efforts.
On Nov 25, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John G. Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
Most linux distros also have talking installs. But part of the reason it continues to be an issue with Windows is that it has not been a high priority for the people who work with Microsoft on accessibility issues. In fact, that was one of the triggers for us to start the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists. I was talking via email with Curtis Chong of the NFB about accessibility issues. He had been scheduled to meet with Microsoft in a couple of days. I brought up the problem of doing Windows installs. He didn't see it as a high priority because it effects so few people. A small bug in Microsoft Excel, for example, might effect thousands of blind people but the inaccessible install effected only a few hundred. I am not disputing his point of view, it is just that I have a different one. I don't think there is anybody out there looking out for the interests of blind IT professionals.
Of course, IAVIT never took off. Only 2 or 3 of us ever got involved. It still technically exists though. Every once in a while I think maybe I'll try to re-energize our core.
On 11/25/2016 02:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) wrote:
Yes, and you can install your os from scratch with voice feedback as far as I am aware and have been told with no extra scripts and things.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 24 November 2016 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!
That’s one of the nice things about the Mac, you get spoken feedback for the entire authentication process. You’d think they could do something similar on the windows side.
On Nov 24, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Caroline Ford <Caroline.Ford@nlbusinessconnect.co.uk> wrote:
We use Becrypt Disk Protect to encrypt our Windows 7 laptops at work. I have to enter my username and password as soon as I switch on the laptop and there is no audible feedback. Under Windows 10 there is supposed to be an audio option which produces a number of beeps to let the user know which information is required (one beep for username, two for password I think), and another number of beeps if the login has been successful or not. When we move to Windows 10 I will be able to test whether this actually works.
Caroline.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: 23 November 2016 17:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Possible encription methods for using on a PC/Laptop!
Hi All,
Just wondered if there are any possible methods of encrypting a computer which could then be accessed by a blind person. This need arises for someone who is working in a law firm where computers are encrypted. Either pre or post boot stages. Any information on how this might work would be appreciated.
Many thanks,
Paul.
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