Hi, We are looking at several venders for a network refresh. We will probably stay with Cisco because of the trained staff on-site (I am not one of the Cisco guys). To me I feel that the Cisco side is lagging behind the likes of HP (especially after the 3Com/H3C takeover) and the smaller guys who are doing more with UTM devices than what is being done with the ASA devices currently. Cisco seem to be doing a lot with the Nexus stuff and high speed fibre stuff, but the interesting services based switches are still the 6500 based devices. I use an ASA here at home currently, and if I was to have my time again I probably wouldn't buy it because of the lack of UTM on the lower models. I haven't really had much experience with hardware firewalls up until now though, my previous system using Iptables on CentOS until mid 2007 when I got the Cisco box. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 17 July 2010 23:25 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Juniper V. Cisco Any one else finding the gear coming out of Juniper more interesting than Cisco lately or actually for a while? I'm working on a big migration from Cisco / Foundry to Juniper and the Junos side is so much more flexable. I like the whole BSD vibe on the Juniper gear. They have really good version control for example and you can tell that's all based on a subversion back end with a wrapper. Recovering a corrupted OS is all about mount_msdosfs /dev/das1, copy your image to the temp directory and then add / reboot, bam! It's very clean and familiar some how. I guess I like products that use Unix environments as their OS, Checkpoint on Solaris was another example. I also like the fact that a gigabit interface for example can pass a gigabit's worth of normal traffic instead of say 300 megabits like your average Cisco product. Anyone else having a similar experience? What are other vendors doing interesting things. How are the Juniper security products? I will say I do like the Cisco ASA 5500 series. The whole group construction and policy / tunnel phase 1 / 2 thing is clever. I'm not inspired by what Cisco is doing in routing and switching though. Any other vendors that should be considered? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins