Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows XP live CD with sound support again

Hi, At the moment, its just a snazzy batch that I use for doing vista / 7 installs with on drives that I slave. Once the script is done, I just pop the drive into its computer again, boot, the install starts and everything is automated until the part where narrator is usable. The idea would be to create a very slim pe dvd with audio, nvda and some form of tool to modify partitions and then just have the installer start up automaticly once everything is loded. Doing it this way would mean that you wouldn't have to remove the drive to carry out an install. Thinking about it, you might even be able to do the install on the drive that you're booting from if you really wanted to, but I think the script formats the drive at the moment so that would have to be changed. In windows 8, you're able to create a bootable version of your os on a usb drive, so when it's released, assuming that someone figgures out how to add drivers, this may turn out to be a preferable solution. Most of the stuff that we're trying to do at the moment is only possible using some what buggy hacks, simply because nobody else needs a bootable cd with audio support that is capable of running windows apps. So just to clarify, at the moment, you need to have a working box and some way of connecting the destination drive to it in order to use the script. On 09/07/2011, Zameer Mahomed wrote:

Hi Ben,

If you don't mind, please could you answer a few questions concerning your script which you have made sometime ago?

1. Does this script involve adding audio drivers to the win7 pre-environment? 2. Does this script use NVDA for the talking install? 3. Does this script load during all phases of the windows setup, or just the first phase?

Regards, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows XP live CD with sound support again

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If I ever do get round to making something like this, I'll make an application that will (After being given a windows 7 disk) generate an iso which will contain a talking 7 installer based on the custom installation script I posted a few months ago.

On 04/07/2011, Zameer Mahomed wrote:

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Hi Andrew,

One of the reasons why audio didn't simply work is because, the audio service needs to be installed and started.

I know for networking and other necessary services which makes a pre-environment, one may use the drvload program to load drivers.

But I guess microsoft fail to recognise that there are also visually impaired system administrators, hence they probably felt audio is unnecessary in a pre-environment.

I personally wish we could sign some sort of petition so that microsoft may provide audio support for installing windows 8 without sighted assistance, or a least make available instructions to have audio supported in the future pre-environment that will correspond to windows 8.

Please people, let's do something about this! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows XP live CD with sound support again

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Hi,

Interestingly enough I upgraded a suite of tools the other day called L-Soft Active BootDisk, which I use for PC troubleshooting and file recovery. One of the options in the new software is to add drivers with .inf files, and it is now based on the Win7 PE. I was going to try and find the drivers for a USB sound card I have, but my initial attempt to get this working with NVDA portable failed to work, I suspect because the drivers that come on the disk for the USB soundcard are not digitally signed.

When I put the sound card into the machine in Win7, it detects the drivers

and installs automatically. The issues I have with just copying from the hard drive is that the system is 64-bit, and I am not sure where to find the inf files for the drivers concerned.

Thanks. Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 04 July 2011 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Windows XP live CD with sound support again

Hi,

Pe has had audio support since v2, so the vista pe will be able to be used. I was under the understanding that since all bart pe type projects were based apon pe 1.0 that audio wasn't supported; do you know for a fact

that audio is supported and that the info file you've found isn't just some junk that ms left behind?

On 04/07/2011, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:

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Dear members of this conference, I would like to inform You about The possibility for creating Windows XP live CD. I have been also tried The WIN PE based on WIndows Vista core, i have tested excellent tool for sighted users named JUDE USB wizard. Unfortunately, sound support is not included in WIndows PE based on WIndows Vista, and i think, that sound support will not be awailable also while using WIndows PE based on Windows 7 kernel. But there is other choice. Using Windows XP and Bardspe and, and this is very important, try to use The following project. It is awailable on The following address. http://www.llanelly.com/downloads.html If You will download The following .zip archive http://www.llanelly.com/downloads/file/11-xpebuilder.html And if You will finish The installation, You will find The file msaudio.inf in The following folder:

\XPEBuilder\Plugin\300_drivers\oem-ms-drivers The task is, where to add .inf and .sys drivers, on which folder? And if it is simply possible to add new device driver to The msaudio.inf file. NVDA latest development and all released version are fully compatible with Windows PE environment, there is also braille device directly supported by NVDA without need to installing it's driver. So if somebody would have The time, I AM suggesting to integrate some sound driver to The .inf file from The XPE Builder v0.1.0.146 project. There are many various preconfigured and preinstalled plugins, i AM only wondering, if visually impaired users will be able to use included alternative shell. Powermenu is perfectly accessible, it's whole start menu, so this would be a perfect shell alternative, which would be used in The resulted XP live media. There is also ammazing solution, visually impaired system administrator could buy The USB sound cart, which can be detected by WIndows XP and this driver could be incorporated to The resulted WIndows XP live CD. Because integrating many sound drivers would consume many space and i AM afraid, that algorithms for searching The sound hardware and triing to include so many drivers would break The load process of The live environment. Brltty will not be easy to integrate, because services feature is not simply to setup in live mode.

-- Mgr. Janusz Chmiel

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