There you hit on a sensitive note with me. It has never been proven, at least not to my satisfaction, that we have better anything than sighted people do. We just know how to use it, and they don't because they don't have to. You can see it in millennials now. Studies are already out that young people born after I think it's 1985 are already showing marked increases in memory problems. Why? Because they have iThis and iThat to do it for them. That technology is just now coming to us as well, and I fear we're in danger of falling into the same trap if we're not careful. Use it or lose it, I was always taught, and it's being made quite clear that those who aren't, are. I don't want to be in that number. On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:57:13 -0400, you wrote:
Then surprise at hacking ought not be as prevalent as it is. In fact, it should be expected. I know, some 40 or so years ago, I use to stand in the social security office, just memorizing the social security numbers told to receptionists when asked for them. There were blind youths who use to be very good at mimicking telephone tones to be able to call numbers, and to make illegal long distance telephone calls. Which is another reason audio privacy is important. We who are totally blind, having exceptional memories should be particularly aware of these sorts of things, I think. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" <sm@noisynotes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] TeraTerm
That isn't nearly as unlikely as it sounds. I heard people's voicemail passwords all the time at a Fortune 100 company because everybody checked their voicemail message on speakers. Anything's possible.
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:07:10 +0000, you wrote:
That would be a fine thing if someone compromised a machine because they over heard a password on a screen reader. Wow! Imagine that one. I've never thought about it much but that's a pretty big risk. I always use headphones which is probably why I never thought about it but if someone really wanted to they could probably pick up the signal from my cans.
Well
On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, John G Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
I've been a linux user for a while now but when I used Windows and openssh, I had a problem in that jaws would speak my password as I typed it in. I wrote a jaws script to stop that. I don't know if it would still work but here it is:
http://www.math.wisc.edu/~jheim/pub/program.jss
On 08/27/2015 05:34 AM, Jen Bottom wrote:
I have OpensSH installed on a Windows box at work and that works fine for connecting to other machines.
I use a 'config' file in my user's '.ssh' directory for managing keys etc.
I think iti came with GitBash, but you might well be able to get it via Chocolaty, if you kike that sort of package manager, or just download it from the net.
I used to use Putty for connecting in when working at home, but I found it a lot of faff. Give me a nice config file any day :)
Hope this helps, Jen!
On 8/24/15, Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> wrote:
Emphasis on the simple--they don't provide the insert-q info.
If you press ctrl-shft-r, they should toggle between reading and ignoring incoming text.
The scripts are named "ssh" because that is what JFW is expecting for this program.
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On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Chris:
I downloaded your scripts and SecureCRT, but have a question/problem. All the scripts are for ssh, but the SecureCRT program isn't called that. How do I know they're in service, especially since I didn't find any I didn't find any ScriptFileName function, so I put one in, and when I press JAWS Key Q, JAWS tells me I'm running the default scripts.
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:57:11 -0500, you wrote: > > I use Secure CRT and some very simple JAWS scripts for screen echo > that I > wrote and > placed here: > > http://chrisnestrud.com/projects/jfw/scrt > > Chris > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 07:33:21PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: >> I think something broke after Jaws 12 or so. Teraterm wasn't bad >> with >> the >> simple modification I found on one of the Cavi archives on the net >> until >> you >> try to apply that to 13 and up, and it kind of falls apart. I think >> we >> probably have to find a different way to edit files on the remote >> machine >> though because we can't stay in Jaws 12 forever just for TT to work >> good. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Matzura" >> <sm@noisynotes.com> >> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] TeraTerm >> >> >> That's what I do with TT now. I'm trying to get away from that mess. >> TT often loses cursor track. I'm noticing the same thing with PUTTY. >> >>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:26:46 +0000, you wrote: >>> >>> Putty: use the jaws cursor to reed >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Fr?n: Blind-sysadmins >>> [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] F?r Steve >>> Matzura >>> Skickat: den 17 augusti 2015 20:59 >>> Till: Blind sysadmins list >>> <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> >>> ?mne: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] TeraTerm >>> >>> How much better is putty with JAWS than TeraTerm? I tried it, and >>> found >>> I >>> have to read every line manuallly once I'm connected to the other >>> system. >>> >>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:33:50 +0000, you wrote: >>>> >>>> Go ahead and check out putty or secure CRT. Putty is free, Secure >>>> CRT >>>> is $99ish and has a jaws script that works with it. Putty is very >>>> good >>>> though, supports ssh and lots of other protocols including serial. >>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is there a better solution for ssh-ing than this? There's a >>>>> simple >>>>> JAWS script I use with it, but it has quirks and annoyances which >>>>> make me wonder sometimes how I get anything at all done with it. >>>>> Soon >>>>> as I get my Raspberry Pi set up as an ssh terminal, I'll probably >>>>> ditch the whole TeraTerm thing, but if there's something better, >>>>> or >>>>> something that can be changed in the script I have for it, I'm >>>>> all >>>>> about trying it. >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >>> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >>> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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