Thanks all for your suggestions so far. I may have this wrong, but I think that if a user wants to share their terminal using screen, they would need to connect directly to my system, or I to theirs. This may not be great, as I would have to expose my work machine perhaps a bit more than it already is. Currently I can only get to it outside the office via VPN. It seems that Tmux and Tmate use a server, so potentially I could set one up in-house and this would be the only thing I would need to expose. This is probably not really much of an issue, as if you are sharing a terminal session with someone, whether it's via a server or not, they could still potentially do nasty stuff, if you don't keep an eye on things, but think IT would rather have a separate server they can control, rather than exposing my Mac. Any thoughts on this point? So far I'm thinking Tmate is the tool I will choose, though it requires a bit more overhead to install than Tmux (you have to add the PPA first) and Screen is even present on Macs by default. I feel however, that once it's installed, the commands are perhaps a little easier to get used to then those of Tmux or screen. Quite a few customer's who admin the products I need to support in this way, are not very clued up about the command line at all and are just used to using WebEx type tools. Anyway if they really need to show me some stuff, at least now they have an option :) Cheers, Jen. On 6/12/15, Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@gmail.com> wrote:
I had issues with screen and using a serial link. I found Voice-over not reading the whole line from the beginning.
Sean
On 11 Jun 2015, at 12:33 am, Scott Granados <scott@granados-llc.net> wrote:
+1 on screen, been a big time screen user since the mid 90S.
Disagree on voice over’s usability in term but that’s a personal preference thing.
On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bram Duvigneau <bram@bramd.nl> wrote:
Hi Jen,
The boxes you hear are probably due to different terminal sizes. If I remember correctly, Tmux fills the rest of the terminal with little boxes if your terminal is larger then the one at the other side. You can set your terminal size in the Terminal.app preferences on the Mac.
I usually use GNU Screen, but haven't looked in Tmux yet. I thought Tmux had some features that Screen is lacking, but Screen works well for me so far so never tried somethign else. Screen draws a horizontal line and leaves the bottom of the screen empty if your terminal is larger, that should give less issues. My personal opinion is that VO speech is not good enough to do serious terminal work, I always prefer a braille display and BRLTTY for that.
Bram On 6/8/2015 5:51 PM, Jen Bottom wrote:
Hi,
One of the products I support lives on Linux boxes, so I have been exploring the possibility of using something like 'tmux' or 'tmate', for times when it is useful to see what the customer themselves is doing on their box as they do it.
So far I have found 'tmate' ok, but 'speak' does seem to like reading out bits of the session from before. reading up from the bottom of the window seems to work ok though. Also, if I create the 'tmate' session on my Mac all is good, but if I connect to someone els's session, VO seems to get very hung up on telling me about light box drawings.
Any thoughts on the best solutions for terminal sharing are very much appreciated.
Cheers, Jen.
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