Just an FYI, they go in on an angle in Macs.
On Oct 12, 2015, at 2:33 PM, John G. Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
I doubt that your particular motherboard requires you to put the ram sticks in at an angle. I have worked on dozens of different models of Dell from small footprint workstations to small super computers and the ram sticks always go in straight, at a 90 degree angle to the motherboard. They make a clicking noise when snapped into place.
There are probably plastic locking tabs on the left and the right of each stick of ram. You push them down to release the ram. When you do that, the ram will come out of the slot by a fraction of an inch and you will be able to just lift it out. To put it back in, you press down hard enough for those tabs to snap back into place by themselves with a clicking noise. If you have to push the tab in, that is a sign that the ram might not be seated correctly. You should take it out and try again.
On 10/12/2015 11:16 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
I never heard that with any of them yesterday ... no wonder we've got two of them not angled correctly ... I'll try again, and this time I'll spend a bit more time rather than trying to do it in a rush.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Hardware refresher: speaking as a blind person
The truth is that often these memory chips make a horrible crackling sound when they seat correctly, & it scares the snot out of u, but it's what it's supposed to sound like, at least in a desktop. U don't generally want that sort of sound in a laptop lol.
Also, these chips usually need to be inserted into the slot at an angle, i.e., like 45 degrees, then pushed straight up into the slot, which is what makes that nasty sound. A wrist strap, or, conversely, touching a nonpainted metal surface in order to discharge static electricity before installing components is a good thing.
On 10/12/15, Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu> wrote:
Thanks. I'll try that. You wonder why there are so many red-letter warnings about damage when often force needs to be applied anyway to get the component to fit properly? It would be nice, for that tends to intimidate the less confident, or first-time learners.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 11:59 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Hardware refresher: speaking as a blind person
Right. Find an existing stick in the server. At either end of the stick, you will feel a clip. Push both clips away from each other to eject the ram stick from the server. Make sure you don't flip the stick over or turn it round. Lift it out gently holding it the same way you took it out. Put another stick of ram against it and feel the bottom edge to see if the notches on both sticks match. If they are not in alinement, turn the second stick around and put it against the first stick and see if the notches match. By turning round, I mean turning it 180 degrees. If they still do not match, then the ram sticks are differing specifications. Put the first stick back in to the slot you took the ram out of, pressing down firmly so both clips come towards each other as you push the stick in to place. There should be a satisfying click assuming its in the same way you took it out. Try the same with the second stick, push both clips in the empty slot away from each other and slot the second stick in to place. If it doesn't go in 1 way, try turning it round 180 degrees and slotting it in. The edge with the notch on it will always need to be on the bottom edge. That should be about it. If when you turn the server on you have no display output or beeps, something isn't right and its either not seated properly or the server is picky about brands. As I said, if you aren't sure about any of the above, it may be best to have someone sighted show you initially. It depends how confident you are and how willing to experiment you are.
Cheers,
Mo.
Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu> wrote:
I see that, but getting a sighted person to do it for you doesn't teach you anything ... that's why I came here. I need someone to remind me how to do this as a blind person considering all last year my opportunities were sort of extinguished every time.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 11:45 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Hardware refresher: speaking as a blind person
If you are not sure, then don't force the stick in to the slot and obtain sighted help. Alternatively, any reputable computer shop should be able to install it for you without cost. Where abouts are you based? If you are anywhere near lincolnshire in the UK I would be happy to drop by and lend a hand.
Cheers,
Mo.
Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu> wrote:
Thanks. Basically the issue is putting them in ... after my ex-boyfriend touched the server and was rougher than I'd have liked with it, I've not felt none too comfortable messing with hardware fearing that I'll press down too hard and fry something (as instructions often say "don't touch the components, damage can occur.") Yet my partially blind and CompTIA certified friend says it's okay to touch them and instruction manuals are being too cautious ... (He needs to be on this list as well.) Anyway, but the actual issue for me at least is feeling for the slot, how far to push down on the module to ensure that I do not damage either the component or the board.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:54 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Hardware refresher: speaking as a blind person
Hi. Yep unless you mix and match, you shouldn't have any issues. Most people don't even notice to be honest, I didn't know until the first one I started working on began beeping. I was sat there racking my brains and the only thing that seemed different was the brand. Best thing to do is try it if you have some spare sticks. Some dell boards are fine some aren't which is a real shame. My favourite boards are asus, they couldn't care less in most cases what brand you use.
All the best,
Mo.
"John G. Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
Wow, thanks. I've been working on Dell servers for years and never knew about the different slots. We almost never buy 2 different kinds of ram for our machines so I guess it never came up before.
On 10/12/2015 09:41 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote: > Hi. > > In dell machines, the sticks in the black slots have to match and the ones in the white slots have to match. Make sure the ram is the same spec i.e ddr2, ddr3 etc. Normally the config is black white black white. When you say you were struggling to insert it, what was the problem specifically? If its not seating properly, check the notch and contacts are lining up correctly. I am totally blind and have seldom had any issues with ram in dell machines, but some as you say can be pigs to work on and can be very fiddly especially if there is not much clearance. I have also known dells to be picky about the brand of memory. Its also not recommended to mix ecc and non ecc ram. > All the best, > > Mo. > > > Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> Just had a rather embarrassing moment yesterday when I attempted to >> insert some new ram modules into my server and then realized shortly >> afterward that either, I don't know how the heck to do it >> anymore, or >> I'm too skittish to, due to last year's events (had a particular person >> in my life who thought he knew it all, and for him, teaching me and >> nurturing my tech interests was not in the cards.) Well, so as blind >> individuals, how do we insert ram modules properly? (I, or rather my >> father, added eight gigabytes to the existing four, though now only two >> slots appear to be filled.) They must not be seated properly, because >> he, fully sighted, was struggling with it as well. If it helps, the >> model server I have is a Dell PowerEdge T110, and from what I've heard, >> that board's a pain in the butt to work with. When working with ram as >> a blind person, is a motherboard a motherboard? Or are they all >> different? And not to mention the color codes? (this particular board >> has black and white slots.) >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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