So I actually gave it a try and I have to say that (as a non screen reader user), it exceeded my (and Ryan's) expectations. Ryan can provide better feedback than me, but so far it looks promising. I would actually love if some of you would give it a try especially on WSL (the Windows Subsystem for Linux): we tried vi, and it worked pretty well (despite reading V-I as "six"), and actually even Midnight Commander was usable without the need of using special screen reader input (i.e. using the standard mc keys). Narrator seems to be tracking the cursor quite faithfully as well: to exit MC you hit F10, which opens the textual correspondent of a pop-up in the middle of the screen. Narrator realized that and read the content of the "window" right away. I won't take any credit for this other than for being a pain in the neck of the Console team who did all the work (one of these days I know I'll get a restraining order from them...). I really would love to hear your feedback though and I'm sure https://twitter.com/richturn_ms would be more than interested as well (and the one to send praise and criticism to). Gianugo -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Gianugo Rabellino via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:07 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Gianugo Rabellino <Gianugo.Rabellino@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessibility improvements in the Windows console I'm not sure if the UIA integration is that complete. I don't see how, without a higher level API, the console will be able to understand that what's presented on the screen is actually a menu. I'm not sure even if libraries such as (n)curses provide that semantic support. But I'll ask. Gianugo ________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:34:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Accessibility improvements in the Windows console Hi, Do you know if Narrator will track focus changes correctly in console apps? E.G. if I'm being asked to select an option from a menu using the arrow keys will Narrator automaticly read the option in focus? Cheers, Ben. On 10/14/17, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
This sounds quite good. I hope it lives up to and maybe even exceeds the demo.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 02:29:57 +0000, you wrote:
Since quite a few of you use the Windows console, I thought I'd bring to your attention some major accessibility improvement in the terminal/console experience coming in the next Fall Creators Update. You can find more details and a short demo at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblogs.msdn.microsoft.com%2Fcommandline%2F2017%2F10%2F11%2Fwhats-new-in-windows-console-in-windows-10-fall-creators-update%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cgianugo.rabellino%40microsoft.com%7Ca179dec01e564f73452208d513eaacfb%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636436821003196300&sdata=NzSD22GheEQhXr8kQD5LmbTZuw8%2BAtrEMnGVclhFY0A%3D&reserved=0. We would love to hear your feedback on the new integration with Narrator (and other screen readers): I, for one, am excited to see the new architectural changes that will hopefully pave the way for better integration going forward.
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