I’m with you, I don’t think FS will react any differently with more pressure. They already have the pressure of Apple including a viable screen reader in all their devices as well as Google on the phone side. There are various windows screen readers and at this point all the other options I figure have to be having impact on FS. I wouldn’t want to be in the screen reader business at this point. On Jan 13, 2015, at 10:43 AM, John G Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
I doubt that at this point additional competition could provide more motivation for Freedom Scientific. My guess is that Freedom Scientific already has all the competition it needs.
My opinion is that we shouldn't make plans which assume Freedom Scientific will be around in 5 years. Any company can go out of business. And I have no information that FS is particularly vulnerable at this point. I just think it would be wise to not assume they'll be around in a few years.
I am against doing anything for the purpose of helping or hindering Freedom Scientific. That's out of our hands and considering the effect of our decisions on FS can only lead us down the wrong path.
On 01/13/2015 07:43 AM, Greg B. wrote:
I have voted for this using every email address I have. I think the scare of Microsoft taking things into its own hands could shake up companies like Freedom Scientific and make them work a little harder to improve their products.
Greg B.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:57 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Fully funcional windows 10screen readerpetition
Angel do you meen windows eyes? I have never understand window eyes To many settings
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 13 januari 2015 13:06 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Fully funcional windows 10screen readerpetition
Please just vote for this. Nothing bad will come of it.
At minimum it will highlight this need and at most it will result in a little more consideration added to Nerator.
The more MS work on a screen reader, the more they will find the problems that FS, GW and NV struggle with and hopefully the more will be fixed.
A Windows screen reader won't necessarily spell the end for Freedom Scientific or NVDA. It will generate more competition and this can only be a good thing.
As I said as well, if Microsoft develop a screen reader, they will most likely base it on UIA and maybe UIA will become more wide spread and more reliable.
Also, Maybe Microsoft will learn from their trials and tribulations and release better documentation and standards for third party app developers to follow. This should be a win win for everyone.
Go vote. IT takes 3 seconds.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Angel Sent: 13 January 2015 12:03 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Fully funcional windows 10 screen readerpetition
If this fully functioning screen reader is implemented, it will be interesting to read the faults with it found by those who cried for it in the first place, and how different it will be from that which the specialist companies provide now. Why don't those who want a fully functioning screen reader just purchase Microsoft Office 10 or above, and have their screen reader? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Murphy" <mhysnm1964@gmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Fully funcional windows 10 screen readerpetition
Sorry I don't agree with this. If ms want to include a full screen reader then sponser NVDA Or buy one of the available screen readers. Even better provide a full API for accessiblity like Apple and let the small specialist companies do the thing. Then you get the best of both worlds.
My experience is the part
On 13 Jan 2015, at 9:34 am, Mario Percinic <mario.percinic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey everyone. someone has started a petition on microsoft's own windows 10 forum to add a fully functional screen reader to windows. If the petition gets enough votes, microsoft will consider it as an addition to windows 10. Please sign in and spred it around as much as possible. If we get enough votes, there is huge possibility that we could press microsoft to actually do something about it.
the link for the petition is: https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-suggestio ns/suggestions/6942363-add-a-native-fully-functional-screen-reader-to -wi
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