Hi, Yeah, that was the question I was asking last night, and haven't got an answer for. I suspect the answer at the moment based on what I know is that this won't work, it will only work if Office is installed to the server. I would love to be proven wrong. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 15 January 2014 22:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] WE and RDP Probably a simple question but when running Window eyes over RDP, does it authorize it's self from the client? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nestrud Sent: 15 January 2014 21:48 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] WE and RDP The GWKB1068 - Deploying Window-Eyes Through Group Policy article suggests that you can call the Window-Eyes setup program to install silently. setup /vs /vn"username" /vc"companyname" /va In the Remote Desktop Connection (mstsc) client: Select options button, Local Resources tab, More button, in the Drives tree select the checkbox a drive. If you check drive c, for example, you should be able to access: \\tsclient\c from your Terminal Services session on the remote server and it will access drive c on the client. Security settings may prevent this access. There is also an option in mstsc to run a command after login. You may be able to combine these ideas to automatically perform a silent install on login to the server. More information is here: http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1068: Chris On Wed, January 15, 2014 3:26 pm, Scott Wheat wrote:
Hi Mika,
windoweyes > advanced options and run Virtual channel maintenance. Here you need to enable Microsoft Virtual Channel Support. There may have been some other things, but that covers the basics. You can find some more info in the WE manual and in the knowledge base at gwmicro.com. As for remotely installing WE, I haven't looked at that. When I set up
It has been a while since I set it up. Basically, you have to get WE installed on the remote machine and then select the Virtual (remote desktop / terminal services) synthesizer and when you pick your Braille display make sure you choose the proper virtualization radio button. On the machine you are going to be sitting at, you need to go to start the servers here at work, I had the benefit of my co-workers eyes to help so we just logged in and installed it the normal way using a copy of the CD that I had put on a share.
Good luck!
Scott
-----Original Message---From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:06 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Hi Scott,
Can you describe any specific configuration needed to get WE running on the client system that you are trying to control?
Also lets say you want to start using WE or I suppose any screen reader on a remote pc, lets say an end users machine or a server that you need to manage. Have you found a way to remotely install WE or another screen reader? At this point until its installed you would not have a screen reader on the target system. I'm thinking of eg using msiexec or a script etc to remotely install the AT software on a computer you will want to manage via RDP.
Best, Mika
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Wheat Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Hi Mika,
As for using WE for RDP, so far for me it is working quite well. Basically you install WE on the serer or other windows machine you want to connect to. Depending on your setup and requirements, you will have some configuration to do to get the local copy of WE talking, but it isn't all that complicated. After it is set up, you simply run Remote Desktop on your local computer, connect to the machine you want and WE starts reading everything on the host as if it were local. At work I have RDP set up so I can access 5 different Windows 2008R2 servers. On some of them I haven't got Braille working but it does on others. I am sure it is a setting I missed somewhere and I'll figure it out eventually. We could argue for days as to if using RDP and WE is the best thing to do in a production environment, but so far it is working for me.
Scott
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Hi,
If you have another voice say from Jaws, NVDA, etc. would you need to buy it again in order to use with WE?
I would also be interested how people use WE for RDP.
Best, Mika
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:08 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Hi,
Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them.
it's pretty exciting though.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really?
How could GW make moey from this?
On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope.
Darragh
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
Hi all,
Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there.
Andrew.
Jan-14-2014
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