Very true.
Narator is possibly an option. Hadn't thought of that. I wonder if windows
u will work inside an RDP session before log in though.... Worth trying
out.
Regards
Darragh Ó Héiligh
Fujitsu
Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas,
Fredrick Building,
South Fredrick Street,
Dublin2
Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559
Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie
Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie
From: Ryan Shugart
To: Blind sysadmins list
Date: 12/07/2011 15:44
Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Access using remote desktop.
Sent by: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
You're right, it's a big bummer we can't get that kind of information. My
own personal example is with password expirations. We have several
template base images where the local administrator password you're
supposed to use to log onto the machine to do the setup before joining it
to the domain has expired. It's a real pain, and sometimes the easiest
approach is to just get a friendly pair of eyes to walk me through the
process. Still very annoying though. One thing that might be worth
trying, although this will totally depend on your network connectivity and
how your machines are set up, is to try running Narrator. It gives me
horrible performance over RDP, but I have gotten it to work from time to
time. By default, sound is turned off on server versions of Windows, I
turn the audio services on when I build templates for things like this,
and they can also be enabled through GPOs.
Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [
mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of
Darragh OHeiligh
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:30 AM
To: Blind sysadmins list
Cc: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Access using remote desktop.
Your definitly right, You can fource the log information to be provided
before the remote desktop session starts however for reading remote errors
it would be great to have a screen running. I know that's not possible at
the moment though.
Specifically, I was trying to access a test desktop with a newly created
temporary test account in a specific OU. I had forgotten to give the user
remote desktop access permissions so I was getting an error on the remote
end. If jaws had read that error it would have saved me a lot of time.
Regards
Darragh Ó Héiligh
Fujitsu
Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas,
Fredrick Building,
South Fredrick Street,
Dublin2
Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559
Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie
Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie
From: Ryan Shugart
To: Blind sysadmins list
Date: 12/07/2011 14:25
Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Access using remote desktop.
Sent by: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi Darragh:
On the first problem, there are a few ways I've worked
around this. With a Windows 7 RDP client RDPing to a Windows Server
2008R2 machine, all the login information is asked for on the client end
before the connection is even made. You can force this on earlier
connections by checking the show more box, and then entering a username
and password. I also have just memorized the steps, for example, on
Windows Server 2003, once the connection is made, alt+u username, alt+p
password, enter works. Sometimes you need to do enter, alt+u username,
alt+p password, enter if you have a login banner like we do on some of our
machines. Windows Server 2008, not 2008R2, can be more difficult because
the usernames appearing on the login screen can vary, but in that case you
can force the client to ask for credentials, and most of the time if it's
a server you and only you log into, your name will be the default.
On the second problem, I use Window-Eyes, not JAWS, so
can't comment accept to say I've not seen this abnormally, AKA no more in
an RDP session than I'd see it on a standard console session, so I'd guess
it's a JAWS issue.
Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [
mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of
Darragh OHeiligh
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:47 AM
To: Blind sysadmins list
Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Access using remote desktop.
Greetings,
I have 2 problems when using remote desktop. I'm assuming most if not all
of you have these problems as well however in case you have a work-around
I thought I'd post here.
The first problem is I am unable to read the log in screen for any version
of Windows when accessing it using remote desktop. This means that If
trying to switch users in Windows 2008 or I get a log in error in Windows
2003 I am unable to read it. I'm using the Jaws screen reader. I don't
expect that there's a work-around for this. Do any of you have a way of
reading log in errors when accessing a system using remote desktop?
The next problem is something I've been reporting for years. It was fixed
for a while around Jaws 9 or 10 however it's back again. In fairness, I'm
not totally convinced it's an issue caused by Jaws any more.
The alt or control keys seem to stick when using a remote desktop. For
example, after pressing alt tab a few times then pressing alt F4 you might
find that if you press the letter e, alt is still pressed even though on
the physical keyboard it's not pressed at all.
I have spoken to people in FS right from Eric to the tech support people.
They seem unable to reproduce the problem or unable to resolve it. I
however can reproduce it in seconds on any system I use.
I have also experienced this problem when using tandem.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Regards
Darragh Ó Héiligh
Fujitsu
Offices of the Houses of the Oireachtas,
Fredrick Building,
South Fredrick Street,
Dublin2
Telephone: +353 (1) 618 3559
Email: darragh.oheiligh@oireachtas.ie
Internet: http://www.oireachtas.ie
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