Re: VMware ESXi administration
Hi All, I am just wondering why we as visually impaired individuals haven't gotten these companies to do the simple things. I finally had to drop PRTG for similar reasons. I am getting very frustrate with these software vendors that make Admin products not accessible. I am wondering if we should start a public shaming or something. Not really sure at this point. Just my thoughts. Billy -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:40 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: VMware ESXi administration Hi: Do you know what version of ESXI/VCenter you'll be managing? Its been years since I was a VMWare administrator, but when I was the VSphere client would automatically upgrade itself when it connected to a newer VCenter server or ESXI host than it was designed for, and I know VMWare is really pushing the HTML5 client. Just being honest here, VMWare has a long way to go as far as being accessible goes. Their Workstation product is really good, but their server products leave a lot to be desired. I never had really good luck working with them on accessibility either, they were not very responsive, that was a long time ago though so it may be worth trying to reengage them. I definitely recommend looking at Powershell and the PowerCLI as you can do many things with that. However, if you need to use a lot of other VMWare products such as site recovery manager, you'll be out of luck. I can't really recommend a blind person build a career on VMWare administration for this reason, beyond the basics you won't be able to do much as a lot of the power of VMWare comes with their supporting products beyond ESXI/Vcenter. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca <cankirca@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:32 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: VMware ESXi administration Sure, you can download from the following link that I mentioned: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvsphereclie... Best. 2019-02-27 16:27 GMT+03:00, Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com>:
Thank you both for this information.
If you've found a particularly usable client, I'd appreciate knowing how to locate it.
Chris
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 08:37:13AM +0300, Can K??rca wrote:
Hello,
Some versions are not, but VSphere client 6 is mostly accessible to do following tasks: Brows datastores and run all file/folder commands, Create virtual machine, edit/update virtual machine, manage snapshots and related commands, configure remote applications like SSH/SNMP, manage power, read tasks status and so on. If you want, I can share the client that I'm using.
Best.
2019-02-27 2:33 GMT+03:00, kprescott@coolip.net <kprescott@coolip.net>:
If you manage with VCenter, use powershell with PowerCLI That works wonderfully for me. I use both powershell on Windows, and powershell on my Ubuntu Linux machine. There are good tutorials on PowerCLI. The html5 interface is almost useless.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] VMware ESXi administration
Hello all,
I'd appreciate any information on accessible administration of VMware ESXi servers. Creating and destroying VMs, monitoring status, etc. I understand that accessing VM consoles is probably not accessible. The ESXi VPAT suggests that the HTML5 client is not accessible, so I'm hoping that someone has found an alternative. I do not need to be able to install the ESXi server; another team will be responsible for that piece. Thanks in advance for any information.
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The reason why we haven't gotten these companies to do the simple things is because when people say we should do something, what they really mean is someone else should do something. But the International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists still exists as a 501c3. We don't have any money any more. We gave it all away. We still kind of have a lawyer. Last time I talked to him, he expressed some fairly minor frustration that we were wasting his time. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to get him to stay on. We still have a virtual host to use as a web/wiki/list server. And I have an ESXI machine in my basement in a box. On 2/27/19 10:46 AM, Billy Irwin wrote:> Hi All,
I am just wondering why we as visually impaired individuals haven't
gotten these companies to do the simple things. I finally had to drop PRTG for similar reasons. I am getting very frustrate with these software vendors that make Admin products not accessible. I am wondering if we should start a public shaming or something. Not really sure at this point.
Just my thoughts.
Billy
-----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins
<blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:40 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: VMware ESXi administration
Hi: Do you know what version of ESXI/VCenter you'll be managing? Its been years since I was a VMWare administrator, but when I was the VSphere client would automatically upgrade itself when it connected to a newer VCenter server or ESXI host than it was designed for, and I know VMWare is really pushing the HTML5 client. Just being honest here, VMWare has a long way to go as far as being accessible goes. Their Workstation product is really good, but their server products leave a lot to be desired. I never had really good luck working with them on accessibility either, they were not very responsive, that was a long time ago though so it may be worth trying to reengage them. I definitely recommend looking at Powershell and the PowerCLI as you can do many things with that. However, if you need to use a lot of other VMWare products such as site recovery manager, you'll be out of luck. I can't really recommend a blind person build a career on VMWare administration for this reason, beyond the basics you won't be able to do much as a lot of the power of VMWare comes with their supporting products beyond ESXI/Vcenter. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca <cankirca@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:32 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: VMware ESXi administration
Sure, you can download from the following link that I mentioned:
https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvsphereclie...
Best.
2019-02-27 16:27 GMT+03:00, Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com>:
Thank you both for this information.
If you've found a particularly usable client, I'd appreciate knowing
how to
locate it.
Chris
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 08:37:13AM +0300, Can K??rca wrote:
Hello,
Some versions are not, but VSphere client 6 is mostly accessible to do following tasks: Brows datastores and run all file/folder commands, Create virtual machine, edit/update virtual machine, manage snapshots and related commands, configure remote applications like SSH/SNMP, manage power, read tasks status and so on. If you want, I can share the client that I'm using.
Best.
2019-02-27 2:33 GMT+03:00, kprescott@coolip.net <kprescott@coolip.net>:
If you manage with VCenter, use powershell with PowerCLI That works wonderfully for me. I use both powershell on Windows, and powershell on my Ubuntu Linux machine. There are good tutorials on PowerCLI. The html5 interface is almost useless.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] VMware ESXi administration
Hello all,
I'd appreciate any information on accessible administration of VMware ESXi servers. Creating and destroying VMs, monitoring status, etc. I understand that accessing VM consoles is probably not accessible. The ESXi VPAT suggests that the HTML5 client is not accessible, so I'm hoping that someone has found an alternative. I do not need to be able to install the ESXi server; another team will be responsible for that piece. Thanks in advance for any information.
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