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Bobo, Greg

17 Mar 2008 17 Mar '08

12:59 p.m.

I am happy to have stumbled across this list. I am looking for accessible remote control software. I don't have the ability to install Jaws on every computer I touch, so any help would be appreciated. I used Jaws and Window eyes for access. Thanks in advance, Greg Bobo

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Darrell Shandrow

17 Mar 17 Mar

1:24 p.m.

Hello Greg, The only solution about which I am aware that meets your requirements is RAM / RIM from Serotek. Visit http://www.serotek.com for more information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I am happy to have stumbled across this list. I am looking for accessible remote control software. I don't have the ability to install Jaws on every computer I touch, so any help would be appreciated. I used Jaws and Window eyes for access. Thanks in advance, Greg Bobo _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Bobo, Greg

2:04 p.m.

Thanks, I will be reviewing RIM. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:25 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hello Greg, The only solution about which I am aware that meets your requirements is RAM / RIM from Serotek. Visit http://www.serotek.com for more information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I am happy to have stumbled across this list. I am looking for accessible remote control software. I don't have the ability to install Jaws on every computer I touch, so any help would be appreciated. I used Jaws and Window eyes for access. Thanks in advance, Greg Bobo _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Troy Hergert

1:25 p.m.

I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Darrell Shandrow

1:43 p.m.

Hello Troy, Do you find IT folks balking at the need to install a video intercept with Window-Eyes? RAM and RIM have the advantage that they do not require such patching. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Hergert" <t.hergert@badgerassoc.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Troy Hergert

3:08 p.m.

Hi Darrell, No, I'm the only IT person here and there's nothing really to install. Just enable rdp in system properties and in the window-eyes advanced settings you enable virtual chanel support. Then you use rdp to hit those computers by name or remotely you of course need an ip map in your router. It's rather easy I think. I would personally love the RIM option if we could afford and justify the expense. Hopefully in the future. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Darrell Shandrow

3:13 p.m.

Hello Troy, Have you had a chance to measure the impact of Window-Eyes on a server's CPU utilization, file access, memory and other related resources? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Hergert" <t.hergert@badgerassoc.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi Darrell, No, I'm the only IT person here and there's nothing really to install. Just enable rdp in system properties and in the window-eyes advanced settings you enable virtual chanel support. Then you use rdp to hit those computers by name or remotely you of course need an ip map in your router. It's rather easy I think. I would personally love the RIM option if we could afford and justify the expense. Hopefully in the future. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:41 p.m.

Hi, I have used WindowEyes on a busy file server and on a busy web server, and have not noticed much processor utilization between running without WE and running with WE on the system. Having said this, I wouldn't want to use it on a system which was mission critical, preferring to use remote access methods to get at the relevant data - there is a lot you can do without using RDP. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Shandrow [mailto:darrell.shandrow@gmail.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:14 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hello Troy, Have you had a chance to measure the impact of Window-Eyes on a server's CPU utilization, file access, memory and other related resources? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Hergert" <t.hergert@badgerassoc.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi Darrell, No, I'm the only IT person here and there's nothing really to install. Just enable rdp in system properties and in the window-eyes advanced settings you enable virtual chanel support. Then you use rdp to hit those computers by name or remotely you of course need an ip map in your router. It's rather easy I think. I would personally love the RIM option if we could afford and justify the expense. Hopefully in the future. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Vincent van Itallie

7:42 p.m.

Hi, Sounds interesting. You are the only it person in the company? Are you blind or visually impaired? How do you deal with situations when you can not read a screen? Is your job focused on the it only or are there other tasks involved? Just curious to know. Vincent. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: maandag 17 maart 2008 16:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi Darrell, No, I'm the only IT person here and there's nothing really to install. Just enable rdp in system properties and in the window-eyes advanced settings you enable virtual chanel support. Then you use rdp to hit those computers by name or remotely you of course need an ip map in your router. It's rather easy I think. I would personally love the RIM option if we could afford and justify the expense. Hopefully in the future. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Troy Hergert

8:34 p.m.

Good Question Vincent, I'm mostly blind , can't read a computer screen but I can see a box flash on it or disappear. I require a screen reader. I teach keyboarding and computer classes to the blind and visually impaired in our rehab center 60% of my time. The other 40% of my time I manage the day to day operations of maintaining a duel Windows and Novell server environment for about 40 work stations. When those times arise that I can't read an error on a screen or I need to due an install without speech, there are some things I try. 1. I take a guess and try to get the error off the screen by getting Window-eyes or JFW to startup and tell me something. 2. I walk down the hall and wait for a lovely coworker of mine to have a minute and sit with me for a couple of minutes. 3. some Windows installs I have learned to run with unattended installation files, still have tricks with DOS boot disks and hardware speech synthecizers and Vocal eyes for certain situations. I have also brailled out Windows XP installation notes and how to respond to the dialogs that come up. ON Ocasion, I've been able to run a Windows install without speech just using some notes. 4. Sometimes I hall a computer home and thankfully my wife values the fact I have a job at all so she reads a few screens for me. 5. Since I work for an organization that serves the blind, I of course have staff and bosses who understand the ocasional need of sighted assistance. Gotta stay on my toes and be creative. If others have methods and tips, boy I'd like to add a few to my repitwa. Original message from <vincent@vanitallie.net> To: "'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Toner, Barry (LIT)

3:15 p.m.

Please forgive me if this sounds like bashing. I messed up several configs in University by putting Win Eyes on them. Because drivers hadn't been updated the screens flipped upside down. Not an easy thing to fix when your speech won't work and I'd hate to be faced with that in the work place. It would have been highly embarrassing and given me as a blind tech some bad press. The more I've seen of System Access the more it's growing on me for tech support work. Granted it's got a long way to go to be as configurable as say Jaws or Window eyes but it's flexibility is a massive plus. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 17 March 2008 13:44 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hello Troy, Do you find IT folks balking at the need to install a video intercept with Window-Eyes? RAM and RIM have the advantage that they do not require such patching. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Hergert" <t.hergert@badgerassoc.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:43 p.m.

Hi, I think it depends on the actual machines involved. I have always done my WE work using Dell kit, and have ensured I am using WHQL certified drivers from the Dell website, and touch wood, I have never had an issue. However, as you say, it is something to bare in mind, especially if you are the only blind person accessing the kit - I have got the art of installing WE to one reboot, but in some situations that is one reboot too many. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:15 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Please forgive me if this sounds like bashing. I messed up several configs in University by putting Win Eyes on them. Because drivers hadn't been updated the screens flipped upside down. Not an easy thing to fix when your speech won't work and I'd hate to be faced with that in the work place. It would have been highly embarrassing and given me as a blind tech some bad press. The more I've seen of System Access the more it's growing on me for tech support work. Granted it's got a long way to go to be as configurable as say Jaws or Window eyes but it's flexibility is a massive plus. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 17 March 2008 13:44 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hello Troy, Do you find IT folks balking at the need to install a video intercept with Window-Eyes? RAM and RIM have the advantage that they do not require such patching. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Hergert" <t.hergert@badgerassoc.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Bobo, Greg

2:06 p.m.

Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

2:10 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Darrell Shandrow

2:33 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

Hello Andrew, Your concerns are certainly understood, but the same could be said for other assistive tech companies including Freedom Scientific and GW Micro, yet screen readers are purchased and used in employment situations. If remote access is a requirement for the job, and a solution exists, it would seem this would be considered a "reasonable accomodation" assuming any and all corporate security issues can be addressed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> To: "blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:45 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

Hi, Sorry about that - I got the products messed up. RIM is the cheaper of the two products, and is more suited for a single blind person. However, so far as I know, there is one issue with this - you have to start a remote session from the other end. This is so that people can get remote assistance from you, but the person on the other end remains in full control over the system. RAM, on the other hand, was the product I was talking about, which is the full suite of software which allows remote administration without the person requiring being there at the other end. It runs as a full remote support suite for sighted and blind people alike, and was the product I was talking about in my previous email. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Shandrow [mailto:darrell.shandrow@gmail.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:34 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hello Andrew, Your concerns are certainly understood, but the same could be said for other assistive tech companies including Freedom Scientific and GW Micro, yet screen readers are purchased and used in employment situations. If remote access is a requirement for the job, and a solution exists, it would seem this would be considered a "reasonable accomodation" assuming any and all corporate security issues can be addressed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> To: "blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

2:41 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

2:41 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

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Darrell Shandrow

2:51 p.m.

New subject: RIM (was Just joined today)

No, RIM in this case is Remote Incident Manager. It is an accessible way to administer virtually any Windows based computer, even those owned and used by sighted people who know nothing about assistive technology! It is truly a potentially revolutionary technology! ----- Original Message ----- From: <vjoey@comcast.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:53 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Toner, Barry (LIT)

4 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

4:35 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

5:02 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

I am running with the Blackberry 8800 with the fonts set as large they will go. I do have enough vision to get by, but it is a struggle with the display screen. This device is what my employer provides. I also have Blackberry connect running on Windows Mobile 6, but I have not purchased Mobile Speak, so this smartphone is not very accessible without it. There are quiet rumors that Blackberry is working on a screen reader for their handhelds, but no further news. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:35:00 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

5:02 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

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Stephen Guerra

5:49 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

What is the notify link -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

7:39 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

Hi, NotifyLink is a program we use at work to push emails to Blackberry and other devices. It has clients for Blackberry, Windows Smartphone, Palm, Nokia Series 60, and a couple of others. It works with a range of backend mail systems, from Microsoft Exchange, to the Scalix Linux mail system, which we use at work. http://www.notifycorp.com/ It is not the easiest thing to configure on the server, and does require a bit of administration, though I have never used the backend Blackberry server for Exchange either. It does allow you to look at the phone status, battery etc, and remotely wipe the phone if stolen, across all the platforms, which is good. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 17 March 2008 17:49 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) What is the notify link -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Christopher McMillan

8:11 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

The message will state that it was sent by Blackberry from AT&T or Specific Phone by Specific Carrier. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology BLOG SITE: http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com WEB SITE: http://www.ceektechnology.com WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:49 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) What is the notify link -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Christopher McMillan

8:13 p.m.

New subject: NotifyLink

Sorry about that mistake on my part. Thank you for the correction. I misunderstood. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:39 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, NotifyLink is a program we use at work to push emails to Blackberry and other devices. It has clients for Blackberry, Windows Smartphone, Palm, Nokia Series 60, and a couple of others. It works with a range of backend mail systems, from Microsoft Exchange, to the Scalix Linux mail system, which we use at work. http://www.notifycorp.com/ It is not the easiest thing to configure on the server, and does require a bit of administration, though I have never used the backend Blackberry server for Exchange either. It does allow you to look at the phone status, battery etc, and remotely wipe the phone if stolen, across all the platforms, which is good. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 17 March 2008 17:49 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) What is the notify link -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:35 PM To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, Yes, I have used my E90 with Blackberry connect here at work (though we are now using NotifyLink, so I just use the Notify client). I was just wondering whether there was anything this guy was using specificly, because I saw the tag on his message. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Christopher McMillan

4:12 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Darrell Shandrow

4:24 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today)

Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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christophermcmillan＠hotmail.com

5:43 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

4:51 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Hi, Is it that the Blackberry stuff just doesn't work on the Windows smartphones, because on the Nokia smartphones I am not sure whether anything was done especially to make the Blackberry connect accessible, I find that unless the authors do something completely wacky, most stuff just reads fine. I have used Blackberry Connect, NotifyLink connecter and Mail for Exchange in the past, and they all work. I am not a Windows smartphone user however. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: christophermcmillan@hotmail.com [mailto:christophermcmillan@hotmail.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 17:44 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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Stephen Guerra

5:05 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:20 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

The trial version of Mobile Speak runs for 10 minutes before disabling itself. It runs pretty well on my HTC S710 with Blackberry Connect. I'm almost 100 percent confident that this setup will work for me, still in my testing phase. Its not as easy as it sounds to ask my empolyer to help pay for MSS, I may end up purxhasing it on my own, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Stephen Guerra" <stephen@independentliving.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:05:44 To:"'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:20 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

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Darrell Shandrow

6:36 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Hello, If you are required to use BB Connect in order to do your job and purchasing MSS is a way to accomplish the goal, and your employer wants to reasonably accomodate you, then purchasing MSS may be in order. Of course, all this depends on the situation. If your job is still new, then Vocational Rehab may still come into play. There are also post-employment services. Of course, if you're going to use it for personal purposes as well, that's another matter entirely. Maybe, you could go for the $89 MSS deal with AT&T? ----- Original Message ----- From: <vjoey@comcast.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile The trial version of Mobile Speak runs for 10 minutes before disabling itself. It runs pretty well on my HTC S710 with Blackberry Connect. I'm almost 100 percent confident that this setup will work for me, still in my testing phase. Its not as easy as it sounds to ask my empolyer to help pay for MSS, I may end up purxhasing it on my own, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Stephen Guerra" <stephen@independentliving.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:05:44 To:"'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:54 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

The HTC is a personal device. But it gave me the opportunity to test drive blackberry connect and Mobile Speak. I looked at the phone selection for the 89 deal, and the only one that fits my needs was reviewed and turned out to not be durable. I've been waiting for more phone choices. I am working out how to approached the reasonble accommodation request. Joe Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:36:47 To:<vjoey@comcast.net>,"Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Hello, If you are required to use BB Connect in order to do your job and purchasing MSS is a way to accomplish the goal, and your employer wants to reasonably accomodate you, then purchasing MSS may be in order. Of course, all this depends on the situation. If your job is still new, then Vocational Rehab may still come into play. There are also post-employment services. Of course, if you're going to use it for personal purposes as well, that's another matter entirely. Maybe, you could go for the $89 MSS deal with AT&T? ----- Original Message ----- From: <vjoey@comcast.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile The trial version of Mobile Speak runs for 10 minutes before disabling itself. It runs pretty well on my HTC S710 with Blackberry Connect. I'm almost 100 percent confident that this setup will work for me, still in my testing phase. Its not as easy as it sounds to ask my empolyer to help pay for MSS, I may end up purxhasing it on my own, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Stephen Guerra" <stephen@independentliving.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:05:44 To:"'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:54 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

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Darrell Shandrow

7:13 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Hello, If BB Connect is not ultimately required for the job, then it might not be a reasonable accomodation, but, if it is, then, just do your research, make your case and be prepared to present everything in writing. :-) The Motorola Q9, which is recently a supported device, is pretty good and probably about as durable as any other phone. Of course, nothing I've seen quite matches my wife's Motorola / Nextel I350... That thing's built like a tank! ----- Original Message ----- From: <vjoey@comcast.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile The HTC is a personal device. But it gave me the opportunity to test drive blackberry connect and Mobile Speak. I looked at the phone selection for the 89 deal, and the only one that fits my needs was reviewed and turned out to not be durable. I've been waiting for more phone choices. I am working out how to approached the reasonble accommodation request. Joe Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:36:47 To:<vjoey@comcast.net>,"Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Hello, If you are required to use BB Connect in order to do your job and purchasing MSS is a way to accomplish the goal, and your employer wants to reasonably accomodate you, then purchasing MSS may be in order. Of course, all this depends on the situation. If your job is still new, then Vocational Rehab may still come into play. There are also post-employment services. Of course, if you're going to use it for personal purposes as well, that's another matter entirely. Maybe, you could go for the $89 MSS deal with AT&T? ----- Original Message ----- From: <vjoey@comcast.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile The trial version of Mobile Speak runs for 10 minutes before disabling itself. It runs pretty well on my HTC S710 with Blackberry Connect. I'm almost 100 percent confident that this setup will work for me, still in my testing phase. Its not as easy as it sounds to ask my empolyer to help pay for MSS, I may end up purxhasing it on my own, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Stephen Guerra" <stephen@independentliving.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:05:44 To:"'Blind sysadmins list'" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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JoeY

18 Mar 18 Mar

9:40 p.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Thanks Darrell! The Motorola Q9's form factor is very similar to the Blackberry, and from the specifications on their website, it sounds like this model is a suitable alternative. I called AT&T and they confirmed that the Motorola Q qualifies for the Codefactory mobile speak package, even though it wasn't specifically listed on their website. Having the handheld is indeed part of my job, as a sysadmin, so things should go smoothly. Time to start the paperwork... Thanks again, ~Joe -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Shandrow [mailto:darrell.shandrow@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:13 PM To: vjoey@comcast.net; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Hello, If BB Connect is not ultimately required for the job, then it might not be a reasonable accomodation, but, if it is, then, just do your research, make your case and be prepared to present everything in writing. :-) The Motorola Q9, which is recently a supported device, is pretty good and probably about as durable as any other phone. Of course, nothing I've seen quite matches my wife's Motorola / Nextel I350... That thing's built like a tank!

Toner, Barry (LIT)

10:16 a.m.

New subject: Blackberry / Windows Mobile

Anyone know if it works with N91 or have a link to a complete list of the phones it works with? I thought it was only the Nokia E60, this is an education. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 17 March 2008 17:06 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Darrell and all-- The Blackberry connect works well with Talks and Nokia phones, such as the N75, N82, E62 PDA, etc. I have not gotten any word or indication from Code Factory that Blackberry Connects works with any of its phones, but it does not appear that it should be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of christophermcmillan@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:44 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry / Windows Mobile Dear Darrell I have heard nothing regarding this from Code Factory. I have heard rumors that Humanware and Code Factory are working on something but being from the AT Industry as a Operations Manager, this could take a while. RIM has been put to task on this as a 508 Issue for the Federal Government but they can get by with this type of solution. I had this type of Dialog when I worked for ALVA BV so I know how hard RIM is to deal with. Chris McMillan CEEK Technology, CIO -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hello Christopher, The AccessWorld article mentions use of BlackBerry Connect with Nokia phones. I am wondering if the Windows Mobile version of this software is accessible with Mobile Speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Blackberry can be made accessible. Here is the link on users who are doing it. http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw080605&select=1#1 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Toner, Barry (LIT)" <B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:00 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) As far as I'm aware Blackberry does not support any speech package. There is a Nokia, Nokia E something or other I think that has software that can emulate Blackberry features. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins; vjoey Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Blackberry (was RIM) (was Just joined today) Hi, RIM is Remote Incident Manager: http://www.serotek.com/enterprise.html The version for network administrators etc is called Remote Access Manager - RAM, which is on the same page. I investigated the price of this for a charity a while ago, and the RAM pricing was very expensive, it would cost us around $15,000 for a 5 user pack, if I remember correctly. On the subject of the Blackberry, are you using speech with this in any way, or do you have enough sight to see this? Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: vjoey@comcast.net [mailto:vjoey@comcast.net] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:42 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) RIM. Meaning Research In Motion? That's the makers of Blackberry. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:10:23 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. 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christophermcmillan＠hotmail.com

17 Mar 17 Mar

3:51 p.m.

New subject: RIM and Citrix Access

Dear List: Being a former IT Specialist with the Department of Veteran's Affairs, it literally took an act of the Congress sometimes to implement 508 Solutions. The agencies would state the importance to Citrix access but the implementation took years to put into place from FS and GW Micro to help our employees who were visually impaired who needed remote access. The agencies I worked for never wanted to the first to breach security policy with the Screen Readers Requirements. So I agree with Darrell, if a corporation would implement a solution once the security issues are solved that go for it. Out side corporations here in the USA are more open to this types of solutions then government agencies in my experience. Just my 2 cents based on my corporate and federal experience. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology Blog Site: http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com Web Site: http://www.ceektechnology.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:33 AM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hello Andrew, Your concerns are certainly understood, but the same could be said for other assistive tech companies including Freedom Scientific and GW Micro, yet screen readers are purchased and used in employment situations. If remote access is a requirement for the job, and a solution exists, it would seem this would be considered a "reasonable accomodation" assuming any and all corporate security issues can be addressed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> To: "blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] RIM (was Just joined today) Hi guys, Is anyone here using RIM in a corporate environment on a corporate network? The reason I ask is because I would be worried about spending this amount of money on such a product, if I had never heard of the manufacturer before in that space. For example, I know that Citrix is a leader in remote management and desktop sharing. However, other than in software for the blind, I have not heard of Serotek advertising widely in this space. Until this happens, I am concerned that people will not want to adopt this solution. Discuss. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Bobo, Greg [mailto:Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com] Sent: 17 March 2008 14:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Thanks. I'll take a closer look at Window Eyes. Greg B. Email: greg.bobo@matrixsys.com -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:26 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Toner, Barry (LIT)

3:11 p.m.

The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:39 p.m.

Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Toner, Barry (LIT)

3:49 p.m.

Andrew, How about going from an XP box remoting to a 2K box? Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

3:54 p.m.

Hi, Um, are these workstations or servers? We don't use RDP for workstations, but it works fine from an XP prof workstation to a 2k server. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Andrew, How about going from an XP box remoting to a 2K box? Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Toner, Barry (LIT)

4 p.m.

Workstations. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, Um, are these workstations or servers? We don't use RDP for workstations, but it works fine from an XP prof workstation to a 2k server. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Andrew, How about going from an XP box remoting to a 2K box? Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Andrew Hodgson

4:34 p.m.

Hi, Ok - we migrated to XP on that front, and I don't think RDP is in W2k workstation by default. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Workstations. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, Um, are these workstations or servers? We don't use RDP for workstations, but it works fine from an XP prof workstation to a 2k server. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Andrew, How about going from an XP box remoting to a 2K box? Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:23 p.m.

RDP is not installed in W2k by default. Use add remove programs to add terminal services. Make sure to choose remote administration mode to avoid licensing. Joe Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:34:04 To:blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, Ok - we migrated to XP on that front, and I don't think RDP is in W2k workstation by default. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 16:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Workstations. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:54 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, Um, are these workstations or servers? We don't use RDP for workstations, but it works fine from an XP prof workstation to a 2k server. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Andrew, How about going from an XP box remoting to a 2K box? Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 17 March 2008 15:40 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today Hi, WindowEyes works with W2k in RDP mode. I have a lot of W2k servers here still. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Toner, Barry (LIT) [mailto:B.Toner@Liberty-IT.co.uk] Sent: 17 March 2008 15:12 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today The trouble with RDP though is that allot of corporate environments are still using Win 2K as their deciding whither to migrate to XP for the duration or to go straight to Vista. I'm looking at the proposed solution here with great interest. Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 17 March 2008 13:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today I use window-eyes on servers and work stations. RDP through Windows works great for me. You don't need extra licenses to load Window-eyes on a computer that you want to connect to. I've even logged into a server from home and then into various work stations. I still get pretty good connection using rdp from computer to computer to computer. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobo, Greg" <Greg.Bobo@matrixsys.com> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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vjoey＠comcast.net

6:23 p.m.

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Troy Hergert

4:39 p.m.

I've had no trouble using Window-eyes on our Small Business Server 2003. I'ts pretty mnuch running all the time. 1 Gb memory and 2.8 Processor. It's been this way for about 3 years now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <Andrew.Hodgson@allpay.net> To: "blind-sysadmins" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Just joined today

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Chris Hallsworth

2:54 p.m.

Hi Greg, welcome to the list. I don't post much on here since I know little to nothing about system administration. However, welcome anyway, nice to have you on board. Bobo, Greg wrote:

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