hey this at prime software will be out in october. i think its worth a look. they just gotta add OCR and website internet ability to better recognise inaccessible stuff on websites yet. the link is. http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/atprime.html pass ;this on to everyone you know. it will change the way we use windows! at prime is an accessibility optomiser, showing many invisible controls to the screen reader user making them visible, renameable and more. -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982