Hi all, It has been quiet in here. Could someone please explain how accessible working in a novell environment is from a blind administrators point of view? My employer is considering putting me in a project where novel and zenworks administration needed to be done. Hope someone can shed a bit of light on this. Vincent. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Vincent, I am still managing a duel server environment Novell and Windows. Novell has been pretty easy. The Windows based management component called nwadmin is mostly speech friendly. A bit of mouse/jaws cursor may be needed ocassionally. I also have to access the server screens itself and that I do with a remote console session using vocal-eyes and a hardware synthesizer. The only times I've needed sighted assistance is for serious issues where the boot process would halt prior to the ability to login. Then I have to have sighted help at the server itself. I believe there's a way which I never bothered to try, where you could load a dos screen reader on the server itself and it may indeed function properly after the operating system is loaded. It's basically a dos machine. We're using Novell 5.1. Not sure what has changed in later versions. While Novell servers can be tough to get optimized, once their up, they rarely need to be rebooted. Think I last rebooted ours last October sometime. From: "Vincent van Itallie" <vincent@vanitallie.net> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Hi all, It has been quiet in here. Could someone please explain how accessible working in a novell environment is from a blind administrator's point of view? My employer is considering putting me in a project where novel and zenworks administration needed to be done. Hope someone can shed a bit of light on this. Vincent. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, I believe there is a remote console using Telnet/SSH you can use as well if you want, Novell are now using Linux as a platform, so some of the servers you may encounter may run using Suse as a base. That is where my experience ends with Novell though. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Troy Hergert [mailto:t.hergert@badgerassoc.org] Sent: 27 March 2008 13:44 To: vincent@vanitallie.net; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Vincent, I am still managing a duel server environment Novell and Windows. Novell has been pretty easy. The Windows based management component called nwadmin is mostly speech friendly. A bit of mouse/jaws cursor may be needed ocassionally. I also have to access the server screens itself and that I do with a remote console session using vocal-eyes and a hardware synthesizer. The only times I've needed sighted assistance is for serious issues where the boot process would halt prior to the ability to login. Then I have to have sighted help at the server itself. I believe there's a way which I never bothered to try, where you could load a dos screen reader on the server itself and it may indeed function properly after the operating system is loaded. It's basically a dos machine. We're using Novell 5.1. Not sure what has changed in later versions. While Novell servers can be tough to get optimized, once their up, they rarely need to be rebooted. Think I last rebooted ours last October sometime. From: "Vincent van Itallie" <vincent@vanitallie.net> To: <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Hi all, It has been quiet in here. Could someone please explain how accessible working in a novell environment is from a blind administrator's point of view? My employer is considering putting me in a project where novel and zenworks administration needed to be done. Hope someone can shed a bit of light on this. Vincent. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins -- allpay.net Limited, Fortis et Fides, Whitestone Business Park, Whitestone, Hereford, HR1 3SE. Registered in England No. 02933191. UK VAT Reg. No. 666 9148 88. Telephone: 0870 243 3434, Fax: 0870 243 6041. Website: www.allpay.net Email: enquiries@allpay.net This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the allpay.net Information Security Manager at the number above.
Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank
Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Andrew, Most network diagrams are pretty standard, and one can study the basics in a Cisco course or from someone with experience. I believe you're in the U.K., so things may be different, but, here, Prometric provides the reader, and you may in some cases be able to get a free retake of the same exam at a later date if you can show you failed for accessibility reasons. I thought that might be necessary for CCNA because of those diagrams, but it turned out that I passed with a good score regardless. As with anything else, you might find out that you can get a lot more accessibility than you might expect if you're willing to ask good questions and self-advocate. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Was your CCNA with Prometric? Mine was with Pierson Vue, the only accessability they provided was a form for claiming extra time and a reader. I had to provide the reader myself. I spent countless times on the phone with Pierson Vue, and sent them several emails. I had several promises to be contacted later, none of which materialised. I was only a few marks short for passing the exam for each time I took it! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Most network diagrams are pretty standard, and one can study the basics in a Cisco course or from someone with experience. I believe you're in the U.K., so things may be different, but, here, Prometric provides the reader, and you may in some cases be able to get a free retake of the same exam at a later date if you can show you failed for accessibility reasons. I thought that might be necessary for CCNA because of those diagrams, but it turned out that I passed with a good score regardless. As with anything else, you might find out that you can get a lot more accessibility than you might expect if you're willing to ask good questions and self-advocate. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Andrew, No I took CCNA through Prometric. Don't some of your laws over there have a bit more teeth than ours on some of this accessibility stuff? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Was your CCNA with Prometric? Mine was with Pierson Vue, the only accessability they provided was a form for claiming extra time and a reader. I had to provide the reader myself. I spent countless times on the phone with Pierson Vue, and sent them several emails. I had several promises to be contacted later, none of which materialised. I was only a few marks short for passing the exam for each time I took it! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Most network diagrams are pretty standard, and one can study the basics in a Cisco course or from someone with experience. I believe you're in the U.K., so things may be different, but, here, Prometric provides the reader, and you may in some cases be able to get a free retake of the same exam at a later date if you can show you failed for accessibility reasons. I thought that might be necessary for CCNA because of those diagrams, but it turned out that I passed with a good score regardless. As with anything else, you might find out that you can get a lot more accessibility than you might expect if you're willing to ask good questions and self-advocate. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Essencially yes, however, it is very difficult to get anything from these companies unless you have a very good solicitor. We had a really good test case with a test centre last year, where a blind woman did not get the support she needed, and she got her case through and supported by the DRC. However, a major part of the DRC has now gone bust and absorbed by another government department, and the only help they gave me in this matter was to send me a list of solicitors who may be able to help, all of which wouldn't take on the case because they had a full case book, or they didn't feel it was worth it as there was already a test case out there. I wonder whether it may be a good idea to try to take the exam at a centre who uses Prometric? I know the local test centre I use does use Prometric for the Microsoft exams, but they definitely use Pierson Vue for the Cisco exams. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, No I took CCNA through Prometric. Don't some of your laws over there have a bit more teeth than ours on some of this accessibility stuff? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Was your CCNA with Prometric? Mine was with Pierson Vue, the only accessability they provided was a form for claiming extra time and a reader. I had to provide the reader myself. I spent countless times on the phone with Pierson Vue, and sent them several emails. I had several promises to be contacted later, none of which materialised. I was only a few marks short for passing the exam for each time I took it! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Most network diagrams are pretty standard, and one can study the basics in a Cisco course or from someone with experience. I believe you're in the U.K., so things may be different, but, here, Prometric provides the reader, and you may in some cases be able to get a free retake of the same exam at a later date if you can show you failed for accessibility reasons. I thought that might be necessary for CCNA because of those diagrams, but it turned out that I passed with a good score regardless. As with anything else, you might find out that you can get a lot more accessibility than you might expect if you're willing to ask good questions and self-advocate. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? 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I did my mcse exams with pearson vue. I need to agree with Andrew here. I was told to select a reader my self. Which was difficult to find, I can tel you. Vincent. From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: vrijdag 11 april 2008 18:33 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Was your CCNA with Prometric? Mine was with Pierson Vue, the only accessability they provided was a form for claiming extra time and a reader. I had to provide the reader myself. I spent countless times on the phone with Pierson Vue, and sent them several emails. I had several promises to be contacted later, none of which materialised. I was only a few marks short for passing the exam for each time I took it! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Most network diagrams are pretty standard, and one can study the basics in a Cisco course or from someone with experience. I believe you're in the U.K., so things may be different, but, here, Prometric provides the reader, and you may in some cases be able to get a free retake of the same exam at a later date if you can show you failed for accessibility reasons. I thought that might be necessary for CCNA because of those diagrams, but it turned out that I passed with a good score regardless. As with anything else, you might find out that you can get a lot more accessibility than you might expect if you're willing to ask good questions and self-advocate. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Nearly every question in the exam was diagrams. It didn't help that I had to get my own reader, and they weren't that fimilar with Cisco symbols in the diagrams either. I did the exam 3 times before giving up in disgust. :-) Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:17 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, It is good to know that Prometric will provide a reader as I had to source a reader myself with Pierson Vue. Where abouts are you located, Frank? Some colleagues have spoken badly of New Horizons before, and how they just use video based training (which I prefer in some ways). I am going on my first AD course in a couple of weeks and am looking forward to it. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:16 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hello Andrew, I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. I'd like to find some good, accessible online courses for some of these IT topics. I've already gotten CCNA (now expired), SonicWALL CSSA, A+ and Network+. I'd like to see about taking a MCSA course, if available in an accessible online format. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, It is good to know that Prometric will provide a reader as I had to source a reader myself with Pierson Vue. Where abouts are you located, Frank? Some colleagues have spoken badly of New Horizons before, and how they just use video based training (which I prefer in some ways). I am going on my first AD course in a couple of weeks and am looking forward to it. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:16 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Work just got CBT Nuggetts. I am hoping that although they aren't accessible, I will be able to get enough information from the voiceovers. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:28 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Andrew, I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. I'd like to find some good, accessible online courses for some of these IT topics. I've already gotten CCNA (now expired), SonicWALL CSSA, A+ and Network+. I'd like to see about taking a MCSA course, if available in an accessible online format. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, It is good to know that Prometric will provide a reader as I had to source a reader myself with Pierson Vue. Where abouts are you located, Frank? Some colleagues have spoken badly of New Horizons before, and how they just use video based training (which I prefer in some ways). I am going on my first AD course in a couple of weeks and am looking forward to it. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:16 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I'm working through the 2k6 edition of CBT's A+ Videos. You do miss out when the tutors saying, as we can see from this or that but if the tutors thorough and dynamic and passionate about the subject I've found they come across quite well. I did their intro to Vista and even though I've only looked at a Vista box once I had a fair idea of my way round it. Still hate the thing though! J Barry. "Tell me and I will hear, show me and I will see, involve me and I will understand. Chinese Proverb" Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 11 April 2008 17:32 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, Work just got CBT Nuggetts. I am hoping that although they aren't accessible, I will be able to get enough information from the voiceovers. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:28 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Andrew, I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. I'd like to find some good, accessible online courses for some of these IT topics. I've already gotten CCNA (now expired), SonicWALL CSSA, A+ and Network+. I'd like to see about taking a MCSA course, if available in an accessible online format. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, It is good to know that Prometric will provide a reader as I had to source a reader myself with Pierson Vue. Where abouts are you located, Frank? Some colleagues have spoken badly of New Horizons before, and how they just use video based training (which I prefer in some ways). I am going on my first AD course in a couple of weeks and am looking forward to it. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:16 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Frank, You will need to get the number for Prometric special conditions. By calling them, you can get set up with a reader and double the time. A little paperwork is involved but you will only need to do it one time. Once the paper work is done, you will call the Special conditions group at Prometric to schedule exams. This is how I handled my MCSE. You can call the regular Prometric exam number to get to the special conditions group. Greg L. Bobo -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:08 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I arranged a person to read. I never even bothered with attempting to access their testing computer's with a screen reader. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams
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Most test computers from what I understand are proprietary and purpose build. ERGO They don't' have Ms Windows or any setup like that. Barry. "Tell me and I will hear, show me and I will see, involve me and I will understand. Chinese Proverb" Barry Toner Placement Systems Engineer Liberty Information Technology Direct Line: 02890 167000 Adelaide Exchange Fax: 02890 445511 24-26 Adelaide Street Switchboard: 02890 445500 Belfast BT2 8GD Email: b.toner@liberty-it.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: 11 April 2008 23:28 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams I arranged a person to read. I never even bothered with attempting to access their testing computer's with a screen reader. Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams
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Hi Frank: I have done pretty much the exact same thing you're doing, MCSA 2003 through New Horizons and Prometrick, and can pretty much echo what everyone else has said. Go with a reader/recorder, and extra time. I had the same reader for all of my exams, coincidence I think, and he knew his stuff and read things correctly. On some Microsoft exams, especially 70-290 and 70-291, I had about six or seven simulation questions where you had to perform a task, ranging in complexity I remember one where I had to set up SUS, for example. Know how to do the tasks with a mouse, AKA be able to tell the reader what to click on, and know what the reader should be telling you and you'll be fine. The simulations are just really complex flash objects, and I've heard they can crash quite frequently although I got lucky I guess. The only other thing I can suggest is if your New Horizons location offers it, take the exams there. That way people know you and what your needs are. I had a situation once where Prometric dropped the ball and failed to send a reader out, but the local NH staff talked with Prometrick and one of them was able to read for me for that one time. I live in Denver, and my experience with New Horizons of Colorado was very positive, they went above and beyond in accommodating me and making sure the machines were ready for my use, etc. I was so impressed, I've since taken VMWare training from them and had the same good experience. Hope this helps. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:08 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Versions of Novell up to 5.1 work generally OK. The Web interface is quite usable. NWADMIN does provide some access, but not as much as Console One. To use Console One you need Java Access Bridge as well as JAWS. Window-Eyes does not support JAB. However Window-Eyes does work with the Novell Web Interface very nicely. We have moved to a 6.5 environment and I will be trying iManager and iPrint very soon. I hope those Web interfaces will work just as nicely. Vic Pereira pereira.vic@ic.gc.ca Tel | Téléphone 204-983-0653 Fax | Télécopieur 204-984-4205 Industry Canada, 400 St. Mary Avenue, 4th Floor, Winnipeg, MB R3C 4K5 Industrie Canada, 400, avenue St. Mary, 4e étage, Winnipeg, MB R3C 4K5 Government of Canada | Gouvernment du Canada -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Vincent van Itallie Sent: 27-Mar-08 06:15 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Hi all, It has been quiet in here. Could someone please explain how accessible working in a novell environment is from a blind administrator's point of view? My employer is considering putting me in a project where novel and zenworks administration needed to be done. Hope someone can shed a bit of light on this. Vincent. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Vic, Thanks for the info. I will hear at the end of the week if I will join the project. Do you have any experience with zenworks? All the best, Vincent. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Pereira, Vic: WPG Sent: dinsdag 1 april 2008 18:47 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Versions of Novell up to 5.1 work generally OK. The Web interface is quite usable. NWADMIN does provide some access, but not as much as Console One. To use Console One you need Java Access Bridge as well as JAWS. Window-Eyes does not support JAB. However Window-Eyes does work with the Novell Web Interface very nicely. We have moved to a 6.5 environment and I will be trying iManager and iPrint very soon. I hope those Web interfaces will work just as nicely. Vic Pereira pereira.vic@ic.gc.ca Tel | Téléphone 204-983-0653 Fax | Télécopieur 204-984-4205 Industry Canada, 400 St. Mary Avenue, 4th Floor, Winnipeg, MB R3C 4K5 Industrie Canada, 400, avenue St. Mary, 4e étage, Winnipeg, MB R3C 4K5 Government of Canada | Gouvernment du Canada -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Vincent van Itallie Sent: 27-Mar-08 06:15 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] novell Hi all, It has been quiet in here. Could someone please explain how accessible working in a novell environment is from a blind administrator's point of view? My employer is considering putting me in a project where novel and zenworks administration needed to be done. Hope someone can shed a bit of light on this. Vincent. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
I am preparing for the VISTA and Windows Server 2008 exams and I was on a training session on MCP 101 and Microsoft reported that 95 % of the exams are Multiple choice and some drag and drop / installation actions. These exams are in specific locations and you are video taped during the exam to make sure that you are not cheating. They are between 40 and 60 questions and you have between 120 and 160 minutes depending on the exam. I will be taking the CCNA and next year the CCNP exams with Curtin University in Perth Australia since they are working with CISCO to make them fully accessible. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi Christopher, If these Microsoft exams are offered through Prometric, I am also aware (at least here in the U.S.) that you can get extra time. That accomodation was offered to me, I turned it down and it wasn't needed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams I am preparing for the VISTA and Windows Server 2008 exams and I was on a training session on MCP 101 and Microsoft reported that 95 % of the exams are Multiple choice and some drag and drop / installation actions. These exams are in specific locations and you are video taped during the exam to make sure that you are not cheating. They are between 40 and 60 questions and you have between 120 and 160 minutes depending on the exam. I will be taking the CCNA and next year the CCNP exams with Curtin University in Perth Australia since they are working with CISCO to make them fully accessible. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
That acomodation was also offered by pearson. I believe both companys use worldwhide standards. So your location should not make any diffirence. I live in the Netherlands and all those exams are coordinated from there hq offices somewhere in the World. Vincent. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: vrijdag 11 april 2008 18:37 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Christopher, If these Microsoft exams are offered through Prometric, I am also aware (at least here in the U.S.) that you can get extra time. That accomodation was offered to me, I turned it down and it wasn't needed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher McMillan" <christophermcmillan@hotmail.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams I am preparing for the VISTA and Windows Server 2008 exams and I was on a training session on MCP 101 and Microsoft reported that 95 % of the exams are Multiple choice and some drag and drop / installation actions. These exams are in specific locations and you are video taped during the exam to make sure that you are not cheating. They are between 40 and 60 questions and you have between 120 and 160 minutes depending on the exam. I will be taking the CCNA and next year the CCNP exams with Curtin University in Perth Australia since they are working with CISCO to make them fully accessible. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
The New Horizon 4.0 Curriculum from CISCO is a huge pain. I am getting ready to sit on the exams in a couple months. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:16 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, I used the 3.x version before 4.0, but they eventually moved my account to the 4.0 version on cisco.netacad.net. This wasn't grate, but I had got enough info and copied all the stuff I needed from the 3.0 version. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Christopher McMillan Sent: 11 April 2008 17:28 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] CISCO CCNA and CCNP Exams The New Horizon 4.0 Curriculum from CISCO is a huge pain. I am getting ready to sit on the exams in a couple months. Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:16 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi Andrew, Has CCNA changed significantly over the past couple of years? I passed mine and only recall a couple of diagrams. One of those was just connectors, which I fortunately did study ahead of the exam. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, I suspect you would need to get a reader, as the exam machines are seriously locked down, and I don't know the state of them anyway using Jaws. Let me know how you got on - the CCNA exams weren't brilliant due to the diagrams involved, I suspect the MS exams may be slightly easier due to the nature of the beast. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura Sent: 11 April 2008 17:08 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Dear Blind IT Admin List: The project I am on is working has the following Online Training for Blind and Visually Impaired Users in development CCNA 4.0 Discover Curriculum CCNP MSCE Mac Network Administrator This is being done via Online Courses through Curtin University in Perth Australia. For more information, feel free to go to the following site. http://www.cucat.org I would be more than happy to share my experiences with Curtin. Feel free to skype me at chrismmcmillan or call me at 203 404 7275 Sincerely, Christopher McMillan, CIO CEEK Technology http://ceektechnology.spaces.live.com http://www.ceektechnology.com Skye: chrismmcmillan WM: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com E-mail: chrismcmillan@ceektech.com or christophermcmillan@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell.shandrow@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:27 PM To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Andrew, I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. I'd like to find some good, accessible online courses for some of these IT topics. I've already gotten CCNA (now expired), SonicWALL CSSA, A+ and Network+. I'd like to see about taking a MCSA course, if available in an accessible online format. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hi, It is good to know that Prometric will provide a reader as I had to source a reader myself with Pierson Vue. Where abouts are you located, Frank? Some colleagues have spoken badly of New Horizons before, and how they just use video based training (which I prefer in some ways). I am going on my first AD course in a couple of weeks and am looking forward to it. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: 11 April 2008 17:16 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello Frank, Yes. Prometric will provide you with a sighted assistant to interface with the exam. In most cases, I have found such individuals to be competent. How are you finding the New Horizons courses from an accessibility perspective? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <Frank.Ventura@littlebreezes.com> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MCSA exams Hello all, I am taking some MCSA course at New Horizons, mostly using JFW or System Access. The MS certification exams are now given by a company called Prometrix. Is anyone familiar withthem and is it possible to take the exams in accessible format? Thanks Frank _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Vincent van Itallie