sql 2014

Darragh Ó Héiligh

26 Mar 2015 26 Mar '15

12:46 p.m.

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service?

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Timothy Spaulding

29 Mar 29 Mar

11:38 a.m.

I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Andrew Hodgson

3:54 p.m.

Hi, I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Andrew Hodgson

3:54 p.m.

Timothy Spaulding

5:28 p.m.

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Andrew Hodgson

5:57 p.m.

Hi, Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Timothy Spaulding

6:49 p.m.

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Darragh Ó Héiligh

30 Mar 30 Mar

8:40 a.m.

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Hi, I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 I use SQL 2014. It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty. One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014 Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet? IF so, what's the accessibility like? I need access to the usual things. 1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts. 2. Can I read the result grid view from a select? 3. Can I read the job viewer results? 4. Can I start a job at a specific test? 5. Can I create users and logins? 6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Darragh Ó Héiligh

8:40 a.m.

Megan Bening

1 Apr 1 Apr

4:11 p.m.

Have any of you guys had experience using oracle's SQL? In the past it didn't appear to be usable with a screenreader, and I'm wondering if you've found any change in the last few years. Thanks for your feedback! Megan Sent from my iPhone

...

On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:40 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

I use SQL 2014.

It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty.

One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet?

IF so, what's the accessibility like?

I need access to the usual things.

1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts.

2. Can I read the result grid view from a select?

3. Can I read the job viewer results?

4. Can I start a job at a specific test?

5. Can I create users and logins?

6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

_______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

_______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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John G Heim

5:24 p.m.

I don't know if this is helpful but I use Oracle every day. I use the linux command line client sqlplus, to interact with the Oracle server. I am assuming you are a Windows user. If so, you are in luck. Here's an article that says the Windows command line client works better than the linux one: http://www.williamrobertson.net/documents/sqlplus-setup.html On 04/01/2015 11:11 AM, Megan Bening wrote:

...

Have any of you guys had experience using oracle's SQL? In the past it didn't appear to be usable with a screenreader, and I'm wondering if you've found any change in the last few years. Thanks for your feedback! Megan

Sent from my iPhone

...
On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:40 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

I use SQL 2014.

It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty.

One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet?

IF so, what's the accessibility like?

I need access to the usual things.

1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts.

2. Can I read the result grid view from a select?

3. Can I read the job viewer results?

4. Can I start a job at a specific test?

5. Can I create users and logins?

6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

_______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

_______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

_______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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-- John Heim, jheim@math.wisc.edu, skype:john.g.heim

Ben Mustill-Rose

6:54 p.m.

Hi, I use it on and off under Windows & Linux and has John says there aren't any issues. You can do everything you need to using the CLI but even the web UI is accessible. Cheers, Ben. On 4/1/15, John G Heim wrote:

...

I don't know if this is helpful but I use Oracle every day. I use the linux command line client sqlplus, to interact with the Oracle server.

I am assuming you are a Windows user. If so, you are in luck. Here's an article that says the Windows command line client works better than the linux one:

http://www.williamrobertson.net/documents/sqlplus-setup.html

On 04/01/2015 11:11 AM, Megan Bening wrote:

...
Have any of you guys had experience using oracle's SQL? In the past it didn't appear to be usable with a screenreader, and I'm wondering if you've found any change in the last few years. Thanks for your feedback! Megan

Sent from my iPhone

...
On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:40 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

I use SQL 2014.

It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty.

One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet?

IF so, what's the accessibility like?

I need access to the usual things.

1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts.

2. Can I read the result grid view from a select?

3. Can I read the job viewer results?

4. Can I start a job at a specific test?

5. Can I create users and logins?

6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Ben Mustill-Rose

6:54 p.m.

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I don't know if this is helpful but I use Oracle every day. I use the linux command line client sqlplus, to interact with the Oracle server.

I am assuming you are a Windows user. If so, you are in luck. Here's an article that says the Windows command line client works better than the linux one:

http://www.williamrobertson.net/documents/sqlplus-setup.html

On 04/01/2015 11:11 AM, Megan Bening wrote:

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Have any of you guys had experience using oracle's SQL? In the past it didn't appear to be usable with a screenreader, and I'm wondering if you've found any change in the last few years. Thanks for your feedback! Megan

Sent from my iPhone

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On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:40 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

I use SQL 2014.

It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty.

One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet?

IF so, what's the accessibility like?

I need access to the usual things.

1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts.

2. Can I read the result grid view from a select?

3. Can I read the job viewer results?

4. Can I start a job at a specific test?

5. Can I create users and logins?

6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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Megan Bening

10:12 p.m.

Thanks John and Ben for the feedback!!! I will definitely give these a try. Thanks, Megan Sent from my iPhone

...

On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:24 PM, John G Heim wrote:

I don't know if this is helpful but I use Oracle every day. I use the linux command line client sqlplus, to interact with the Oracle server.

I am assuming you are a Windows user. If so, you are in luck. Here's an article that says the Windows command line client works better than the linux one:

http://www.williamrobertson.net/documents/sqlplus-setup.html

...
On 04/01/2015 11:11 AM, Megan Bening wrote: Have any of you guys had experience using oracle's SQL? In the past it didn't appear to be usable with a screenreader, and I'm wondering if you've found any change in the last few years. Thanks for your feedback! Megan

Sent from my iPhone

...
On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:40 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Thanks Timothy and Andrew for your responses.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 19:50 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Yeah, I do see that as well. And I agree, I do suspect that is the same basic reason that Braille doesn't work in the grid results.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

Really inconsistent results when using the JFW cursor is the main thing which is stuffing me up at the moment.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 18:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

What are you seeing with regards to screen tracking?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:55 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Hi,

I also use SQL 2014 and find it works fine with speech as did the other versions. I have some outstanding issues raised with FS about screen tracking with JFW in Server 2012/Windows 8.1 which I think are similar to what you are seeing.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Spaulding Sent: 29 March 2015 12:39 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

I use SQL 2014.

It is as accessible as previous versions of SSMS. But, if you haven't used previous versions, you can do most of the things on your list with not much difficulty.

One notable difference; but this is more to do with Windows and not SQL SSMS; if you use Braille Displays, you can no longer read the grid of a query/select statement output in Braille after going to windows 8 and/or Server 2012.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:47 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] sql 2014

Have any of you used SQL 2014 yet?

IF so, what's the accessibility like?

I need access to the usual things.

1. Can I read the results of updates and inserts.

2. Can I read the result grid view from a select?

3. Can I read the job viewer results?

4. Can I start a job at a specific test?

5. Can I create users and logins?

6. Can I modify agents such as the Email service? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

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