Hello, I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert. I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dave.
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi Bill, Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs? I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well. Greetings, Simon Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms. I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost. I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID. It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem. I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it. I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler Sent: 25 August 2017 22:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms. I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost. I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID. It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem. I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it. I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler Sent: 25 August 2017 22:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, I was fortunate enough to get the flat wired up completely. now i have a bay in the big cupboard in the hall and there is also the router. so pretty centrally placed in the flat. I have good reception using a fritz box. Greetings, Simon Am 25.08.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Andrew Hodgson:
Hi,
I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms.
I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost.
I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID.
It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem.
I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it.
I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology.
Andrew.
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I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, The issue of devices roaming between SSID's is a device specific one. Each device has criteria relating to at what point it should start looking for a different network - E.G. I'm currently connected to network 1, but it's signal has dropped to x%, so I'll ask all the nearby networks what their SSID's are and if any of them are in my known list I'll join them. One would assume that connecting to a different SSID wouldn't be important or in other words the primary reason for a device jumping to another network would be signal related, but who knows really - as I say it's device specific. For what it's worth I have multiple apps broadcasting on 2.4 & 5GHZ and there is only 1 SSID. In practice most things connect to 2.4 by default but that's expected. The other thing to consider is if you really need the extra bandwidth that 5GHZ gives you: my phone will sometimes connect to 5GHZ but the most bandwidth intense thing I do on it is videos and even for sighted people, if you're watching something on your phone you're probably not incredibly concerned about the quality, so I don't mind if the bitrate is downgraded slightly. Also worth remembering that like most people, I only have 50 megabits coming in, so in theory, if the old devide by 8 rule works, 2.4GHZ is plenty really. Cheers, Ben. On 8/25/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
I was fortunate enough to get the flat wired up completely. now i have a bay in the big cupboard in the hall and there is also the router. so pretty centrally placed in the flat. I have good reception using a fritz box.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Andrew Hodgson:
Hi,
I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms.
I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost.
I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID.
It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem.
I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it.
I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology.
Andrew.
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I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill > On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home > repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two > routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a > Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm > going to convert. > > I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I > am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is > putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary > 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi Ben, Thanks for the info. Greetings, Simon Am 26.08.2017 um 02:33 schrieb Ben Mustill-Rose:
Hi,
The issue of devices roaming between SSID's is a device specific one. Each device has criteria relating to at what point it should start looking for a different network - E.G. I'm currently connected to network 1, but it's signal has dropped to x%, so I'll ask all the nearby networks what their SSID's are and if any of them are in my known list I'll join them. One would assume that connecting to a different SSID wouldn't be important or in other words the primary reason for a device jumping to another network would be signal related, but who knows really - as I say it's device specific.
For what it's worth I have multiple apps broadcasting on 2.4 & 5GHZ and there is only 1 SSID. In practice most things connect to 2.4 by default but that's expected. The other thing to consider is if you really need the extra bandwidth that 5GHZ gives you: my phone will sometimes connect to 5GHZ but the most bandwidth intense thing I do on it is videos and even for sighted people, if you're watching something on your phone you're probably not incredibly concerned about the quality, so I don't mind if the bitrate is downgraded slightly. Also worth remembering that like most people, I only have 50 megabits coming in, so in theory, if the old devide by 8 rule works, 2.4GHZ is plenty really.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/25/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
I was fortunate enough to get the flat wired up completely. now i have a bay in the big cupboard in the hall and there is also the router. so pretty centrally placed in the flat. I have good reception using a fritz box.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Andrew Hodgson:
Hi,
I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms.
I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost.
I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID.
It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem.
I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it.
I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler Sent: 25 August 2017 22:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters
I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
> On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote: > > In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The > best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over > ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. > Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily > controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access > points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is > available. > This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength > (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that > separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for > large homes. > > Bill >> On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home >> repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two >> routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a >> Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm >> going to convert. >> >> I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I >> am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is >> putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary >> 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ. >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Thanks. >> Dave. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi, The issue of devices roaming between SSID's is a device specific one. Each device has criteria relating to at what point it should start looking for a different network - E.G. I'm currently connected to network 1, but it's signal has dropped to x%, so I'll ask all the nearby networks what their SSID's are and if any of them are in my known list I'll join them. One would assume that connecting to a different SSID wouldn't be important or in other words the primary reason for a device jumping to another network would be signal related, but who knows really - as I say it's device specific. For what it's worth I have multiple apps broadcasting on 2.4 & 5GHZ and there is only 1 SSID. In practice most things connect to 2.4 by default but that's expected. The other thing to consider is if you really need the extra bandwidth that 5GHZ gives you: my phone will sometimes connect to 5GHZ but the most bandwidth intense thing I do on it is videos and even for sighted people, if you're watching something on your phone you're probably not incredibly concerned about the quality, so I don't mind if the bitrate is downgraded slightly. Also worth remembering that like most people, I only have 50 megabits coming in, so in theory, if the old devide by 8 rule works, 2.4GHZ is plenty really. Cheers, Ben. On 8/25/17, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
I was fortunate enough to get the flat wired up completely. now i have a bay in the big cupboard in the hall and there is also the router. so pretty centrally placed in the flat. I have good reception using a fritz box.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Andrew Hodgson:
Hi,
I am following this thread with interest. Although I live in a small flat, I have to use a wireless extender device because the walls are very thick and the signal doesn't get from the lounge where the kit is to the other bedrooms.
I have a Sophos professional firewall device with an AP controlled by the wireless controller in that system that was left from a previous job. The license expires on that at the end of the year and was not planning on renewing it due to the cost.
I have this in the lounge, and because I don't have wired Ethernet throughout the flat I decided to get a homeplug wireless access point and have this working as a separate access point but using the same SSID.
It works pretty well for the most part, except for the fact I have Sonos equipment and streaming content from the TV or a turntable I have (which uses high bitrates) causes a problem.
I know the best approach is to wire the flat up, but I have been looking at some of these whole home wireless systems which don't use homeplug technology, but you plug wireless points in at various places and the system works together to bring you a wireless system. You can also use Ethernet sockets on the points to get Ethernet to devices that need it.
I haven't seen how well this works in practise though, and am aware it is very new technology.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler Sent: 25 August 2017 22:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters
I did that as well, but often devices would hold onto the wrong AP.
Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Why isn't it a good idea to use the same SSID on the same network for multiple APs?
I did that at home because we had more places in the house to fit with APs and it worked pretty well.
Greetings, Simon
Am 25.08.2017 um 23:38 schrieb Bill Dengler:
Yes, they would. Bill
On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:36 PM, luke scholey <lukescholey@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi bill With this approach would it not mean that users would have to manually select a different network on the device depending on where they were in the home? Luke
On 25 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
In almost all cases, a wireless repeater is the wrong approach. The best thing to do is wire the router and additional access points over ethernet (patch panel), power line, etc. Each WAP should have its own SSID, so that roaming can be easily controlled from the device side. Devices tend to hold onto access points they’re already connected to, even if a stronger signal is available. This can be partially solved by controlling the signal strength (roaming assistant on Asus professional tab) but I’ve found that separate SSIDs and an ethernet patch panel is the best approach for large homes.
Bill > On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:36 PM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home > repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two > routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a > Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm > going to convert. > > I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I > am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is > putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary > 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Greetings Off the top of my nut I see two possible options. You can set up your primary router to manage access to your ISP and DHCP server. Then set the other routers to have different IP addresses, the same SSIDs as your primary router and disable DHCP. This will extend coverage, however some models don't allow transitions very nicely. Therefore when wandering around your house connections might not hang on. Another option is to get an access point. Ubiquiti has some inexpensive models with excellent range. You just need to use one port on your primary router to run an Ethernet cable to the access point. They usually use POE (power over Ethernet) so you will need to have an electrical outlet near your router. The Ubiquiti web interface works with the last version of Window-Eyes, but since there is no more development taking place I don't know if the newer interfaces work with the last available version of WE. I have not tried using Jaws or NVDA to see if the web interface is useable. Depending on what obstructions there are it is possible to get excellent service 50 to 75 metres away from the access point. Even low power devices like smart phones hang on to the connection nicely. You can disable Wi-Fi on the primary router and set up the various SSIDs on the AP with whatever level of permissions you want each one to have. Vic Pereira Project Manager, Intra-Building Networks Real Property Projects | Networks and End-Users Branch Shared Services Canada | Government of Canada vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca | Tel: 204-781-5046 Gestionnaire de Projet, Réseau Intra-Immeubles Projets biens immobiliers | Direction générale des Réseaux et utilisateurs finaux Services partagés Canada | Gouvernement du Canada vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca | Tél: 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 15:36 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters Hello, I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert. I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hello, Currently I've got the primary router handling dhcp and it goes to the cable modem. The other routers are using ddwrt and are set as wireless repeater bridges. I am not sure the ddwrt configuration is correct. If anyone has ddwrt as a repeater or repeater-bridge can you tell me what settings you used? Thanks. Dave. On 8/28/17, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Greetings
Off the top of my nut I see two possible options.
You can set up your primary router to manage access to your ISP and DHCP server. Then set the other routers to have different IP addresses, the same SSIDs as your primary router and disable DHCP. This will extend coverage, however some models don't allow transitions very nicely. Therefore when wandering around your house connections might not hang on.
Another option is to get an access point. Ubiquiti has some inexpensive models with excellent range. You just need to use one port on your primary router to run an Ethernet cable to the access point. They usually use POE (power over Ethernet) so you will need to have an electrical outlet near your router.
The Ubiquiti web interface works with the last version of Window-Eyes, but since there is no more development taking place I don't know if the newer interfaces work with the last available version of WE. I have not tried using Jaws or NVDA to see if the web interface is useable.
Depending on what obstructions there are it is possible to get excellent service 50 to 75 metres away from the access point. Even low power devices like smart phones hang on to the connection nicely. You can disable Wi-Fi on the primary router and set up the various SSIDs on the AP with whatever level of permissions you want each one to have. Vic Pereira Project Manager, Intra-Building Networks Real Property Projects | Networks and End-Users Branch Shared Services Canada | Government of Canada vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca | Tel: 204-781-5046
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Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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Hello, Currently I've got the primary router handling dhcp and it goes to the cable modem. The other routers are using ddwrt and are set as wireless repeater bridges. I am not sure the ddwrt configuration is correct. If anyone has ddwrt as a repeater or repeater-bridge can you tell me what settings you used? Thanks. Dave. On 8/28/17, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Greetings
Off the top of my nut I see two possible options.
You can set up your primary router to manage access to your ISP and DHCP server. Then set the other routers to have different IP addresses, the same SSIDs as your primary router and disable DHCP. This will extend coverage, however some models don't allow transitions very nicely. Therefore when wandering around your house connections might not hang on.
Another option is to get an access point. Ubiquiti has some inexpensive models with excellent range. You just need to use one port on your primary router to run an Ethernet cable to the access point. They usually use POE (power over Ethernet) so you will need to have an electrical outlet near your router.
The Ubiquiti web interface works with the last version of Window-Eyes, but since there is no more development taking place I don't know if the newer interfaces work with the last available version of WE. I have not tried using Jaws or NVDA to see if the web interface is useable.
Depending on what obstructions there are it is possible to get excellent service 50 to 75 metres away from the access point. Even low power devices like smart phones hang on to the connection nicely. You can disable Wi-Fi on the primary router and set up the various SSIDs on the AP with whatever level of permissions you want each one to have. Vic Pereira Project Manager, Intra-Building Networks Real Property Projects | Networks and End-Users Branch Shared Services Canada | Government of Canada vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca | Tel: 204-781-5046
Gestionnaire de Projet, Réseau Intra-Immeubles Projets biens immobiliers | Direction générale des Réseaux et utilisateurs finaux Services partagés Canada | Gouvernement du Canada vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca | Tél: 204-781-5046
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 15:36 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] repeaters
Hello,
I'd like to get some advice from those who have set up home repeaters for wireless range increases. Currently I have two routers, my primary an Asus RT-N66U running Merlin firmware and a Linksys not sure running DD-WRT. I've also got a buffalo that I'm going to convert.
I am wanting to set up the buffalo and the Linksys as repeaters. I am quite confused as to how to do this as my primary router is putting out three different SSID's, the main 2.4 GHZ, the primary 5 GHZ, and a guest network on 2.4 GHZ.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks. Dave.
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