Accessible voice and text chat clients/systems
Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another. A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat. Any ideas on other services I can investigate? Thanks in advance, Bill
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote:
Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
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This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus. Bill Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
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How about TeamTalk? 2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
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Or TeamSpeak? On 7/22/2018 6:20 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
How about TeamTalk?
2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
Thanks in advance, Bill
Potentially good ideas, but I’d really like something that supports a push/background connection for mobile users. And again I’m responsible for hosting my own servers. Not a bad thing, but can’t communicate with users on different servers and tough for nontechnical users. Bill
On 23 Jul 2018, at 02:24, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Or TeamSpeak?
On 7/22/2018 6:20 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
How about TeamTalk?
2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
Thanks in advance, Bill
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OK, you can install TeamTalk to your own server and If I'm not rong, it supports backround connection with latest release on iOS. 2018-07-23 7:41 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
Potentially good ideas, but I’d really like something that supports a push/background connection for mobile users. And again I’m responsible for hosting my own servers. Not a bad thing, but can’t communicate with users on different servers and tough for nontechnical users.
Bill
On 23 Jul 2018, at 02:24, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Or TeamSpeak?
On 7/22/2018 6:20 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
How about TeamTalk?
2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another.
A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat.
Any ideas on other services I can investigate?
Thanks in advance, Bill
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It might be worth it to investigate rocket.chat. I have not tried it, so do not know about its accessibility yet, but it seems to be open and full of features. Fernando On 07/23/2018 02:28 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
OK, you can install TeamTalk to your own server and If I'm not rong, it supports backround connection with latest release on iOS.
2018-07-23 7:41 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
Potentially good ideas, but I’d really like something that supports a push/background connection for mobile users. And again I’m responsible for hosting my own servers. Not a bad thing, but can’t communicate with users on different servers and tough for nontechnical users.
Bill
On 23 Jul 2018, at 02:24, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Or TeamSpeak?
On 7/22/2018 6:20 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
How about TeamTalk?
2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
> On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: > Hello, > This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I > figured > it’d be worth a shot. > With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually > disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for > alternatives. > I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) > for > realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, > native > (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am > willing > to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. > Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS > users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most > to > least important, but are not required: > 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, > VoiceOver > users. > 2. End-to-end encryption. > 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, > yet > stable audio quality depending on network conditions. > 4. Conference/group chat support. > 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks > we > can find/write another. > > A few options I thought of: > faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. > Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based > Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on > mobile > Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss > Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all > Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of > autoread > for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself > a > bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected > to > my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. > Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is > shut > down, no solution for voice chat. > > Any ideas on other services I can investigate? > > Thanks in advance, > Bill >
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Ah, I didn’t know it supported push notifications now! So I take it the developers maintain a server which keeps up the connections and notifies users of events (like Groundwire)? Bill
On 23 Jul 2018, at 05:28, Can Kırca <cankirca@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, you can install TeamTalk to your own server and If I'm not rong, it supports backround connection with latest release on iOS.
2018-07-23 7:41 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
Potentially good ideas, but I’d really like something that supports a push/background connection for mobile users. And again I’m responsible for hosting my own servers. Not a bad thing, but can’t communicate with users on different servers and tough for nontechnical users.
Bill
On 23 Jul 2018, at 02:24, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Or TeamSpeak?
On 7/22/2018 6:20 AM, Can Kırca wrote:
How about TeamTalk?
2018-07-22 8:31 GMT+03:00, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com>:
This looks like an online meeting service for multiuser situations. I guess I should’ve clarified that this will mainly be used for one to one communication, with the ability to do more an added plus.
Bill
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul. 22, 2018, at 00:34, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote:
Zoom. http://www.zoom.us
> On 7/21/2018 11:16 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: > Hello, > This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I > figured > it’d be worth a shot. > With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually > disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for > alternatives. > I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) > for > realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, > native > (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am > willing > to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. > Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS > users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most > to > least important, but are not required: > 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, > VoiceOver > users. > 2. End-to-end encryption. > 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, > yet > stable audio quality depending on network conditions. > 4. Conference/group chat support. > 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks > we > can find/write another. > > A few options I thought of: > faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. > Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based > Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on > mobile > Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss > Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all > Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of > autoread > for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself > a > bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected > to > my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. > Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is > shut > down, no solution for voice chat. > > Any ideas on other services I can investigate? > > Thanks in advance, > Bill >
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If you have a server available (preferably Linux-based), then you could configure Asterisk or FreeSWITCH to meet your voice communication needs. They can both use the standard SIP protocol. You can then use whatever client-side SIP application you prefer (e.g., Bria Mobile under iOS, Telephone under Mac OS, MicroSip under Windows, etc.). FreeSWITCH also has a WebRTC-based client. I haven't investigated text chat support, however. In addition, I've had success with Zoom under Windows. If you use it with JAWS 2018, however, you should ensure that JAWS is up to date. There used to be a bug, now fixed by VFO, that resulted in crashes of the Zoom application soon after connecting to a meeting. On 7/21/18, 23:16, "Bill Dengler" <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, This might not be the right list for this sort of thing, but I figured it’d be worth a shot. With Skype’s accessibility degrading on Windows and virtually disappearing on the Mac after recent updates, I’m looking for alternatives. I’m looking for a service (or collection of services used together) for realtime voice and text chat. The services must have accessible, native (i.e. not a web view) apps on Windows, Mac, iOS and Android. I am willing to consider an app with a web view if accessibility is excellent. Incoming text chat messages must be automatically read aloud for JAWS users. The following features are nice to have, in rough order of most to least important, but are not required: 1. Automatic reading of incoming text chat messages for NVDA, VoiceOver users. 2. End-to-end encryption. 3. Use of the Opus codec (or something similar) allowing for high, yet stable audio quality depending on network conditions. 4. Conference/group chat support. 5. Based on open standards (or has a public API), so if the app breaks we can find/write another. A few options I thought of: faceTime/iMessage: doesn’t work for Windows/Android/non-Apple users. Whatsapp/Signal/Slack: desktop apps are web based Discord: desktop app is web based, reports of inaccessibility on mobile Telegram: accessibility on mobile is hit and miss Google Duo/Alo: no desktop apps at all Running my own XMPP/SIP server: no XMPP clients that I know of autoread for JAWS, I am responsible for running my own servers (not in itself a bad thing but makes it harder to communicate with those not connected to my server), difficult to use for nontechnical users. Twiter direct messages: will not be realtime after streaming API is shut down, no solution for voice chat. Any ideas on other services I can investigate? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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