32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello, This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain. I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available. I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else. I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable. Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server? Thanks. Dave.
Hi, Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm? Hello, This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain. I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available. I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else. I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable. Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server? Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm? Hello, This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain. I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available. I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else. I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable. Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server? Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hello, Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different. Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot? Thanks. Dave. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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Hello, Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different. Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot? Thanks. Dave. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, Yes you would have to remove the Win7 drive and put the XP machine in the same location, but your point is correct - it will probably blue-screen somewhere during the boot process. It may be possible to work around this using Safe Mode, but who knows. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 19:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm? Hello, Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different. Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot? Thanks. Dave. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, Yes you would have to remove the Win7 drive and put the XP machine in the same location, but your point is correct - it will probably blue-screen somewhere during the boot process. It may be possible to work around this using Safe Mode, but who knows. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 19:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm? Hello, Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different. Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot? Thanks. Dave. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, Just backup the XP data and do a reinstall of xp 32 bit. No worrying about blue screens, no worrying about how to install drivers etc etc. Cheers, Ben. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes you would have to remove the Win7 drive and put the XP machine in the same location, but your point is correct - it will probably blue-screen somewhere during the boot process. It may be possible to work around this using Safe Mode, but who knows.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 19:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different.
Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot?
Thanks. Dave.
On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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Hi, Just backup the XP data and do a reinstall of xp 32 bit. No worrying about blue screens, no worrying about how to install drivers etc etc. Cheers, Ben. On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes you would have to remove the Win7 drive and put the XP machine in the same location, but your point is correct - it will probably blue-screen somewhere during the boot process. It may be possible to work around this using Safe Mode, but who knows.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 19:57 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
Question how can I get the 32 bit drivers on to this older drive, assuming I can find them, if I can't boot it? I'm assuming that it'll blue screen because motherboard, chipset, and graphics are all different.
Without modifying the 7 boot would I have to take the new drive off sata position 3 and put it in sata position 1 to get it to boot?
Thanks. Dave.
On 1/22/13, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Yes it should work, it is basically running a dual-boot 32 and 64-bit setup. You would put the 32-bit drivers on the XP system for the new machine, and leave the 64-bit Win7 partition alone. You need to modify the boot information on the Win7 machine (using bcdedit etc) so that it can see the XP partition.
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 22 January 2013 17:41 To: blind-sysadmins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] 32 and 64 bit xp/7, multi-boot or vm?
Hello,
This is going to be quite interesting to try to explain.
I've got a friend who had an older box, still good, it was a 32 bit athlon64 machine. It ran xp something I can't remember which was left on it and as I said the sata drive is good. He got a new box, also sata, this one a 64 bit also an AMD processor, this one a multi-core. This one is running 7 home premium. He wants to have both systems available.
I reconnected the old sata drive and that's browsable so he can get to his old files, but he was wanting to try something else.
I don't think doing this next would make the old drive stable, but if I set up a multiboot configuration, which I haven't done since the 98 dys, where he gets a boot manager and selects which OS he wants, would it be possible to put in the needed 64 bit drivers for chipset, motherboard, video, audio, networking, basically so the new drive would operate on the new hardware, and make it stable? My gut says no this is not doable.
Failing that, can I somehow get this drive to run in a vm like vmware server?
Thanks. Dave.
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