Hi, Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can’t get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn’t pick up anything much either. Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V? Andrew.
Andrew: I think that’s completely up to you and your needs/situation. I really like VMWare workstation because for me, the easy install (give a new VM an ISO of an OS and VMWare will automatically install it with no user input) and the way it so easily interacts with Window-Eyes make it a no brainer. Also the fact that work pays for my copy makes it even more of a no-brainer. We’re a VMWare ESXI environment, so moving VMs in and out of that to Workstation is also a nice thing. However, if Hyper-V does what you want and you can access it with no big headaches, I’d say go with it. If you are a Hyper-V shop for your servers then I’d say definitely go with it. Hyper-V has come a long way in the past few years and I think is much more inline with VMWare Workstation, I haven’t used its latest incarnations, but if its meeting your needs and the performance of VMs is OK I’d just stick with it. I have heard the Hyper-V console in Windows 10 has some serious accessibility issues and that may be something to consider, even the latest version of Workstation is 95% accessible, so that’s a big one for me. I think you can get a 60-day trial of Workstation, so perhaps grab it and do a comparison with your needs. Sorry this isn’t more helpful, but I think the various virtualization engines are much more equal than they used to be, so it comes down to more of what you use for server virtualization, what accessibility issues you can/are willing to deal with and any special circumstances you have in your specific environment. Ryan
On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can’t get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn’t pick up anything much either.
Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V?
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Hi, To be clear, I am more than happy with Hyper-V for Windows and I was a Hyper-V shop for a long time until I changed jobs. Mainly using AWS now in the new job but will move to ESX soon but will be using VRealize (hopefully with API) to do the work. The issue is that with each Windows upgrade they seem to cause Linux to break and we have to catch up, the Debian networking thing being the latest. I haven't got any other issues with it, though will probably get Workstation as that seems to be what most people are using these days anyway. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: 17 October 2015 05:26 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Why should I buy VmWare Workstation? Andrew: I think that’s completely up to you and your needs/situation. I really like VMWare workstation because for me, the easy install (give a new VM an ISO of an OS and VMWare will automatically install it with no user input) and the way it so easily interacts with Window-Eyes make it a no brainer. Also the fact that work pays for my copy makes it even more of a no-brainer. We’re a VMWare ESXI environment, so moving VMs in and out of that to Workstation is also a nice thing. However, if Hyper-V does what you want and you can access it with no big headaches, I’d say go with it. If you are a Hyper-V shop for your servers then I’d say definitely go with it. Hyper-V has come a long way in the past few years and I think is much more inline with VMWare Workstation, I haven’t used its latest incarnations, but if its meeting your needs and the performance of VMs is OK I’d just stick with it. I have heard the Hyper-V console in Windows 10 has some serious accessibility issues and that may be something to consider, even the latest version of Workstation is 95% accessible, so that’s a big one for me. I think you can get a 60-day trial of Workstation, so perhaps grab it and do a comparison with your needs. Sorry this isn’t more helpful, but I think the various virtualization engines are much more equal than they used to be, so it comes down to more of what you use for server virtualization, what accessibility issues you can/are willing to deal with and any special circumstances you have in your specific environment. Ryan
On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can’t get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn’t pick up anything much either.
Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V?
Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi, To be clear, I am more than happy with Hyper-V for Windows and I was a Hyper-V shop for a long time until I changed jobs. Mainly using AWS now in the new job but will move to ESX soon but will be using VRealize (hopefully with API) to do the work. The issue is that with each Windows upgrade they seem to cause Linux to break and we have to catch up, the Debian networking thing being the latest. I haven't got any other issues with it, though will probably get Workstation as that seems to be what most people are using these days anyway. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Shugart Sent: 17 October 2015 05:26 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Why should I buy VmWare Workstation? Andrew: I think that’s completely up to you and your needs/situation. I really like VMWare workstation because for me, the easy install (give a new VM an ISO of an OS and VMWare will automatically install it with no user input) and the way it so easily interacts with Window-Eyes make it a no brainer. Also the fact that work pays for my copy makes it even more of a no-brainer. We’re a VMWare ESXI environment, so moving VMs in and out of that to Workstation is also a nice thing. However, if Hyper-V does what you want and you can access it with no big headaches, I’d say go with it. If you are a Hyper-V shop for your servers then I’d say definitely go with it. Hyper-V has come a long way in the past few years and I think is much more inline with VMWare Workstation, I haven’t used its latest incarnations, but if its meeting your needs and the performance of VMs is OK I’d just stick with it. I have heard the Hyper-V console in Windows 10 has some serious accessibility issues and that may be something to consider, even the latest version of Workstation is 95% accessible, so that’s a big one for me. I think you can get a 60-day trial of Workstation, so perhaps grab it and do a comparison with your needs. Sorry this isn’t more helpful, but I think the various virtualization engines are much more equal than they used to be, so it comes down to more of what you use for server virtualization, what accessibility issues you can/are willing to deal with and any special circumstances you have in your specific environment. Ryan
On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
Hi,
Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can’t get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn’t pick up anything much either.
Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V?
Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Andrew, If you look through the archives here you'll notice I encountered a couple of very serious issues in terms of accessibility and Hyper-V. I forget what they were now though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday 16 October 2015 23:12 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Why should I buy VmWare Workstation? Hi, Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can't get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn't pick up anything much either. Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V? Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Andrew, If you look through the archives here you'll notice I encountered a couple of very serious issues in terms of accessibility and Hyper-V. I forget what they were now though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday 16 October 2015 23:12 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Why should I buy VmWare Workstation? Hi, Been a faithful Hyper-V user for a long time using both Windows and Linux VMs. After upgrading to Windows 10 I find my dev Debian images are no longer working with network for some reason, not a huge problem, I will reinstall and get it working again with Chef recipes. Unfortunately whatever I do I just can't get the installer to pick up network using network install images. Googling didn't pick up anything much either. Other than the stability of running on a VmWare environment, are there any other real advantages in getting Workstation over Hyper-V? Andrew. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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