Hello, Thanks. On both servers the messages are in maildir format. Will the copying remove any attributes like received date and time, any flags set etc. Thanks. Dave. On 11/5/11, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

Hi.

Actually it probably is just a copy procedure. There are usually two types of mail store format, maildir, where each message is in a separate file, and MBOX, where each message is in a mailbox file. You can copy the files from the old to the new server.

Andrew.

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On 5 Nov 2011, at 00:57, "David Mehler" wrote:

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Hello,

I've got two imap servers one old, one new. The old one has messages on it that i'd like to get on to the new one for several users. Both servers are using open source software, postfix for the MTA and Dovecot for the imap server. If anyone knows how to pull this off I'd like to know about it. I would try copying them,but doubt it's that simple, I want to preserve their dates, times, and attributes.

Thanks. Dave.

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Hi, Yes, it can be done without any problems. If you have mails on the target server you need to preserve, look at something like Dsync (probably better but read documentation carefully), or Imapsync if you haven't got shell access to the servers. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 05 November 2011 14:25 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] migrating imap messages to new server Hello, Thanks. On both servers the messages are in maildir format. Will the copying remove any attributes like received date and time, any flags set etc. Thanks. Dave. On 11/5/11, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

Hi.

Actually it probably is just a copy procedure. There are usually two types of mail store format, maildir, where each message is in a separate file, and MBOX, where each message is in a mailbox file. You can copy the files from the old to the new server.

Andrew.

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On 5 Nov 2011, at 00:57, "David Mehler" wrote:

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Hello,

I've got two imap servers one old, one new. The old one has messages on it that i'd like to get on to the new one for several users. Both servers are using open source software, postfix for the MTA and Dovecot for the imap server. If anyone knows how to pull this off I'd like to know about it. I would try copying them,but doubt it's that simple, I want to preserve their dates, times, and attributes.

Thanks. Dave.

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When I decided to get started learning linux, I just went out and got a cheap used computer. In character mode, linux will still run on just about anything. I have the current stable version of debian linux on a 15 year old laptop. But if you're going to run the GUI, you'll need a fairly powerful machine. One way or another, I think a good way to get started is with a live CD and for that I would recommend vinux. http://vinuxproject.org. On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I tried a while to download an iso and use it under VM Fusion on a mac with not much luck. Can anyone point me at a how too to get started with Fusion and Unix (Linux or FreeBSD is fine) from the viewpoint of a blind user?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks Scott

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Hmmm... I can't explain that. I use vinux all the time but I have not used it in a vm. I always use plain old debian in my virtual machines. But vinux is a ubuntu fork which is, in turn, a debian fork. And software speech works fine in debian in a vm. Then again, I'm using VMWare esx as my hypervisor and that might have better sound card support than VMWare fusion. Still, it seems odd to me that sound doesn't work in fusion because the sound card on a vm is just some common, generic sound card that linux defeinately has drivers for. I think it should work. I guess you never know about VMware though. I just found out that VMWare exxi doesn't support SATA DVD drives. So I'm going to have to put an old fashioned IDE CD-ROM in my brand new VMWare host. You're not going to have a serial port either, are you? Another thing I've done to get started with linux in a vm is to add a serial port to the vm and then used a hardware speech synth to install linux on the vm. That works pretty slick. I haven't tried this for a couple of years and back then I was running VMWare server2. Still, my hardware speech synth worked fine connected through as a virtual serial port on my virtual linux machine. That technology is so simple I'd think serial ports would work in all versions of VMWare. And finally, I very frequently install linux n a vm via a linux package called fai )for "Fully Automated Install). Its non-trivial setting that up. We use it in my department to install linux on the 150 or so linux desktops we have. So I have to maintain it anyway. I can create a linux vm in about 30 minutes by doing an fai install. Its a really slick tool but if you're starting from scratch with it, it will probably take you several days to figure it out. And you need another linux machine to act as the installation server. I've never used VMWare fusion so I am not sure that it works like other VMWare products. But I'm assuming you install your operating system on the vm by booting the vm from a CD or DVD. I'm thinking you may have to investigate the various automated installation packages for linux that are out there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] VM Fusion and a bootable linux distrowith speech

I tried Vinux, it would seem to start in my VM and then no sound or anything. Was really not sure what to do with out any sort of speech on the boot process and didn't have a sited assistant at the time.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

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When I decided to get started learning linux, I just went out and got a cheap used computer. In character mode, linux will still run on just about anything. I have the current stable version of debian linux on a 15 year old laptop. But if you're going to run the GUI, you'll need a fairly powerful machine.

One way or another, I think a good way to get started is with a live CD and for that I would recommend vinux. http://vinuxproject.org.

On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

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Hi, I tried a while to download an iso and use it under VM Fusion on a mac with not much luck. Can anyone point me at a how too to get started with Fusion and Unix (Linux or FreeBSD is fine) from the viewpoint of a blind user?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks Scott

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Hello, Thanks. On both servers the messages are in maildir format. Will the copying remove any attributes like received date and time, any flags set etc. Thanks. Dave. On 11/5/11, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

Hi.

Actually it probably is just a copy procedure. There are usually two types of mail store format, maildir, where each message is in a separate file, and MBOX, where each message is in a mailbox file. You can copy the files from the old to the new server.

Andrew.

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On 5 Nov 2011, at 00:57, "David Mehler" wrote:

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Hello,

I've got two imap servers one old, one new. The old one has messages on it that i'd like to get on to the new one for several users. Both servers are using open source software, postfix for the MTA and Dovecot for the imap server. If anyone knows how to pull this off I'd like to know about it. I would try copying them,but doubt it's that simple, I want to preserve their dates, times, and attributes.

Thanks. Dave.

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Hello everyone, Thanks for your suggestions. I have shell access on both servers and tarred up the messages, copied, and untarred them. I did have to adjust user and group settings, but that wasn't to difficult. Thanks. Dave. On 11/6/11, John G. Heim wrote:

I just did this Friday. I used rsync. But you could also use tar. Tar up the old mail directory, copy the tar ball over to the new machine, and untar it. Of course, you have to make sure the same users with the same uid numbers exist on both machines. That's probably the only tricky part.

On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:58 PM, David Mehler wrote:

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Hello,

I've got two imap servers one old, one new. The old one has messages on it that i'd like to get on to the new one for several users. Both servers are using open source software, postfix for the MTA and Dovecot for the imap server. If anyone knows how to pull this off I'd like to know about it. I would try copying them,but doubt it's that simple, I want to preserve their dates, times, and attributes.

Thanks. Dave.

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