Hi, The MMC also is a tool i need to use every week a few times. So a fix would be nice. Though i don't know if someone is interested in fixing it. It seldom crashes on the tree. The most times when it crashes is when looking at the list view and the details of various events for example. Or when approving updates in WSUS. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darragh Ó Héiligh Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. April 2021 18:13 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: MMC always crashing on Win 10, Server 2016 and 2019 I certainly find problems in the event viewer when using Jaws. I can navigate around it but I usually need to close the window through the task manager. This is the only MMC issue I have. Since the issue about 11 or 12 years ago with Jaws having major problems with the MMC were resolved, the MMC has become a solid tool that I use hundreds of times every week. I would be lost without it. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart Sent: Saturday 10 April 2021 19:04 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: MMC always crashing on Win 10, Server 2016 and 2019 Hi: Back in my sysadmin days, MMC crashes were very common, this isn't new to Windows 10, this has happened for me ever since Windows Vista. Back then I was using Window-Eyes as my screen reader, and whenever I opened Event Viewer, selected a log to view from the tree and tabbed into the list of events, I'd get MMC freezing up with a message that a snap-in was taking too long to respond. When I closed MMC and restarted things worked normally but I just got in the habit of expecting MMC to crash and needing to relaunch it. Event Viewer was the place where this happened the most regularly but I also saw it in a few other consoles, never the AD Users and Computer snap-in though but back when SCCM used the MMC to present its UI it happened all the time there too. So I wonder if what you're seeing isn't new but something that's been a problem in MMC for well over 10 years now? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon Reply-To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Date: Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 11:12 PM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: MMC always crashing on Win 10, Server 2016 and 2019 Hi Billy, No in the AD i have no problem. In the DHCP i haven't problems either. We aren't that large. Just around 200 users. Greetings, Simon -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Billy Irwin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. April 2021 20:49 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: MMC always crashing on Win 10, Server 2016 and 2019 Hi Simon, Do you have it in AD Users and Computers? I haven't had it happen when I have browsed our AD at work which is a very large university with over 5000k users. Best, Billy Irwin Sr. NOC Technician -----Original Message----- From: Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 10:13 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] MMC always crashing on Win 10, Server 2016 and 2019 Hi all, I have various crashes in MMC using NVDA. I don't know if that also happens with JAWS. It happens regularly in WSUS, Event viewer and other tools that use MMC. Basically just navigating and viewing the events in event viewer brings it down and I need to kill the task. It at least happens under various versions of Windows 10, Server 2016 and 2019. This bug exists for a longer time now. I guess I reported it a few months already. Anyone knows what the bug is and if it will be fixed? Or is there a workaround i can use? Am I the only sysadmin who has that bug? 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