Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh
How does it compare with running a typical device that supports OpenWRT? My current router at home is a Linksys WRT1900AC, running the current OpenWRT release. It's old enough to support 802.11ac, but not the newer Phase II features. I don't need mesh, so I haven't investigated the OpenWRT mesh networking support. There is of course newer hardware available from various vendors. I don't plan to upgrade until 802.11ax is supported though. The Web interface of OpenWRT is relatively accessible with a screen reader, and one can access a shell via ssh to edit configuration files or to issue Linux commands. There is also a variety of optional packages available for installation, so if you need a Radius server, or IPSec, or Samba, or any of a number of other capabilities, they're obtainable. One disadvantage of OpenWRT, in my view, is that the operating system is not packaged as a typical Linux distribution would be. You have to upgrade the entire image as a unit, taking care to preserve your optional packages and customizations, although this is better automated in the current version. On 2/11/20, 15:00, "Billy Irwin" <billy.irwin@outlook.com> wrote: Hi Ryan, I haven't, but I wouldn't mind taking it on if I had some extra time to. They really have great enterprise stuff and I really enjoy using it. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:10 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Thanks a lot this is all good info. Has anyone been in contact with Ubiquiti's accessibility people and let them know of the problem? Thanks. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin@outlook.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:34 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi Ryan, I use the unify products fairly well, but the web interface from time to time is a pain. Command line works great. The biggest issue you will have is if the page has dynamic content updating constantly. It will freeze the screen reader and browser. Best, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:58 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hey Andrew: Was wondering what you thought of the Dream Machine, I've heard good things about it. I've got an Airport Express I'll be looking at replacing later this year, and I want something that's accessible but also going to give me a reasonably secure setup. Thanks. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 at 8:17 AM To: "steve@comproom.co.uk" <steve@comproom.co.uk>, Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi, I kind of agree, I went with the Orbi because most of the others rely on apps to configure them and I wanted something with a web interface, at the time the Orbi was the only option, nearly everything else was easy setup on apps only. The Orbi in my view is still the best router out there in terms of configurable features, I am not so happy with the Netgear router interface but it works well enough. I am using Ubiquiti kit now (actually just got a Dream Machine over Christmas), and I would probably look at using their Ubiquiti Unifi gear in mesh mode if I needed to go that route again. There is also the Synology rT2600 which can then act as a mesh basestation, that is a very configurable beast. Not sure if Draytek are going to come out with a mesh system at some point, I have read rumours in various places. I haven't gone near Asus. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Steve Nutt [steve@comproom.co.uk] Sent: 10 February 2020 15:05 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi, I never fancied Mesh, they are not that configurable if you are an advanced router user. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> Sent: 10 February 2020 14:59 To: blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Netgear or Asus Mesh Hello, I'm going to be getting a mesh system for my home and want to hear from those who have them. After researching and talking to friends I'm thinking either the Asus ZenWiFi or the Netgear Orbi both AC3000 (I don't have anything AX currently) and both Tri-Band, but I'm wanting to hear others recommendations and experiences. If you've tried one or both please let me know your impressions. I am also interested in any of these systems phone apps and how accessible they are if I would need to do setup on them either locally or when I'm out needing to change something. For reference to this question i'm using a windows10 laptop, a win10 surface pro tablet, and an android I think it's 8 phone and an android 9 tablet, so that's what any apps would have to run on. If any of these (or other) mesh systems have native support for an Thanks. 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Hi, Ok here are the initial impressions. Setting up the unit is fairly easy, the access issues come when trying to get data from the dashboards and the like, this is pretty much my experience on the Ubiquiti controller as well. There are a lot of features on the UDM and UDM Pro devices that are not on the standard Ubiquiti kit such as a honeypot mode, and it is configured using a different backend to the way the older kit is configured. This uses some type of Linux backend that you can SSH into, but there are no json configuration files like there were with the access points and security gateway kit. The UDM which I have is a smaller device with wireless built-in as I only have a small flat and didn't want the footprint of multiple devices. The UDM Pro is rackmount and has more switch ports (not POE) and can run Unifi Protect. The UDM Pro doesn't have integrated wireless. When I got my WAP initially I was happy because I wanted something I could switch out, in reality though it’s a lot of kit to have going in a small flat where you don't need the larger estate which is why I went back with an integrated device (UDM). I have an Ethernet service direct to the flat at 150MBPS symmetric and it works fine with the dream machine. Firmware updates have been slow for some reason there is apparently one coming soon which is fairly large. The Dream Machine Pro has had a couple and I think they made a lot of internal changes to the system at this stage so not sure how easy the upgrade will be on the UDM itself. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: 11 February 2020 23:37 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh How does it compare with running a typical device that supports OpenWRT? My current router at home is a Linksys WRT1900AC, running the current OpenWRT release. It's old enough to support 802.11ac, but not the newer Phase II features. I don't need mesh, so I haven't investigated the OpenWRT mesh networking support. There is of course newer hardware available from various vendors. I don't plan to upgrade until 802.11ax is supported though. The Web interface of OpenWRT is relatively accessible with a screen reader, and one can access a shell via ssh to edit configuration files or to issue Linux commands. There is also a variety of optional packages available for installation, so if you need a Radius server, or IPSec, or Samba, or any of a number of other capabilities, they're obtainable. One disadvantage of OpenWRT, in my view, is that the operating system is not packaged as a typical Linux distribution would be. You have to upgrade the entire image as a unit, taking care to preserve your optional packages and customizations, although this is better automated in the current version. On 2/11/20, 15:00, "Billy Irwin" <billy.irwin@outlook.com> wrote: Hi Ryan, I haven't, but I wouldn't mind taking it on if I had some extra time to. They really have great enterprise stuff and I really enjoy using it. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:10 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Ryan Shugart <ryshugar@microsoft.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Thanks a lot this is all good info. Has anyone been in contact with Ubiquiti's accessibility people and let them know of the problem? Thanks. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Billy Irwin <billy.irwin@outlook.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:34 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi Ryan, I use the unify products fairly well, but the web interface from time to time is a pain. Command line works great. The biggest issue you will have is if the page has dynamic content updating constantly. It will freeze the screen reader and browser. Best, Billy -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:58 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Dream Machine was Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hey Andrew: Was wondering what you thought of the Dream Machine, I've heard good things about it. I've got an Airport Express I'll be looking at replacing later this year, and I want something that's accessible but also going to give me a reasonably secure setup. Thanks. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 at 8:17 AM To: "steve@comproom.co.uk" <steve@comproom.co.uk>, Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi, I kind of agree, I went with the Orbi because most of the others rely on apps to configure them and I wanted something with a web interface, at the time the Orbi was the only option, nearly everything else was easy setup on apps only. The Orbi in my view is still the best router out there in terms of configurable features, I am not so happy with the Netgear router interface but it works well enough. I am using Ubiquiti kit now (actually just got a Dream Machine over Christmas), and I would probably look at using their Ubiquiti Unifi gear in mesh mode if I needed to go that route again. There is also the Synology rT2600 which can then act as a mesh basestation, that is a very configurable beast. Not sure if Draytek are going to come out with a mesh system at some point, I have read rumours in various places. I haven't gone near Asus. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Steve Nutt [steve@comproom.co.uk] Sent: 10 February 2020 15:05 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Netgear or Asus Mesh Hi, I never fancied Mesh, they are not that configurable if you are an advanced router user. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com> Sent: 10 February 2020 14:59 To: blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Netgear or Asus Mesh Hello, I'm going to be getting a mesh system for my home and want to hear from those who have them. After researching and talking to friends I'm thinking either the Asus ZenWiFi or the Netgear Orbi both AC3000 (I don't have anything AX currently) and both Tri-Band, but I'm wanting to hear others recommendations and experiences. If you've tried one or both please let me know your impressions. I am also interested in any of these systems phone apps and how accessible they are if I would need to do setup on them either locally or when I'm out needing to change something. For reference to this question i'm using a windows10 laptop, a win10 surface pro tablet, and an android I think it's 8 phone and an android 9 tablet, so that's what any apps would have to run on. If any of these (or other) mesh systems have native support for an Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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