Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at

Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual

channel over RDP.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the

Windows desktop via speech.

...

Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

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Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at

But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual

channel over RDP.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the

Windows desktop via speech.

...

Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at

But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers NO. Not really. Similar though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual

channel over RDP.

...

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the

Windows desktop via speech.

...

Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Hi, Not really to me - Apollo has a very distinctive voice. I wish it could be reserected. Those were the days that the hardware synth manufacturers had several different variants of their synths - Dolphin for example had an internal Apollo ISA card, the two external Apollos/Junos and the PCMCIA Gemini card. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:13 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers NO. Not really. Similar though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Andrew, I still have a Gemini PCI card around. Hasn't been used in 15 years though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 18 December 2014 18:06 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Not really to me - Apollo has a very distinctive voice. I wish it could be reserected. Those were the days that the hardware synth manufacturers had several different variants of their synths - Dolphin for example had an internal Apollo ISA card, the two external Apollos/Junos and the PCMCIA Gemini card. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:13 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers NO. Not really. Similar though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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I had the Artic business vision and before that an Echo 2E later on the Dectalk. Love that these are things of the past, they sounded good (dectalk did anyway) but software synths are miles ahead in my opinion. On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

am I the only one who misses the Accent synth and ASAP on dos machines? Most found Accent to be too stacato, but I really liked it at fast speeds. Same goes for Artic.

At 01:06 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

...

Hi,

Not really to me - Apollo has a very distinctive voice. I wish it could be reserected. Those were the days that the hardware synth manufacturers had several different variants of their synths - Dolphin for example had an internal Apollo ISA card, the two external Apollos/Junos and the PCMCIA Gemini card.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:13 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

NO. Not really. Similar though.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But them have same voice?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Hi,

Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth.

Andrew.

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Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability.

It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

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but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

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Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

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Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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I had the Artic business vision and before that an Echo 2E later on the Dectalk.

Love that these are things of the past, they sounded good (dectalk did anyway) but software synths are miles ahead in my opinion.

On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

...

am I the only one who misses the Accent synth and ASAP on dos machines? Most found Accent to be too stacato, but I really liked it at fast speeds. Same goes for Artic.

...

Hi,

Not really to me - Apollo has a very distinctive voice. I wish it could be reserected. Those were the days that the hardware synth manufacturers had several different variants of their synths - Dolphin for example had an internal Apollo ISA card,

At 01:06 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote: the two external Apollos/Junos and the PCMCIA Gemini card.

...

Andrew.

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...

Sent: 18 December 2014 17:13 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo

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...

Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

NO. Not really. Similar though.

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Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But them have same voice?

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Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Hi,

Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth.

Andrew.

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[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias

...

Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different

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...

Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca

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Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to

Are these hardware synthesizers capable of making BIOS accessible? I got to IT with software synthesizers only and never had a change to work with one of the hardware once. Always wondered if it worse the effort to invest in one of the hardware synth to be able working on the BIOS level when needed. Do they have one with USB connection? Sorry it's kind of off the topic. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:44 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Oh they are. I still prefer Eloquence for basic computing where I have the speech cranked up though. But for pleasure reading, the more human-sounding voices for sure. At 01:38 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote: portability.

...

...

It also worked as double duty as a portable

synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

...

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates

how a little flexibility can go a long way

...

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

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Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

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but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

...

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool.

...

...

Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access.

http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.

...

m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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I had the Artic business vision and before that an Echo 2E later on the Dectalk.

Love that these are things of the past, they sounded good (dectalk did anyway) but software synths are miles ahead in my opinion.

On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

...

am I the only one who misses the Accent synth and ASAP on dos machines? Most found Accent to be too stacato, but I really liked it at fast speeds. Same goes for Artic.

At 01:06 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

...

Hi,

Not really to me - Apollo has a very distinctive voice. I wish it could be reserected. Those were the days that the hardware synth manufacturers had several different variants of their synths - Dolphin for example had an internal Apollo ISA card, the two external Apollos/Junos and the PCMCIA Gemini card.

Andrew.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:13 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But the voice in orpheus tts sound verry verry verry like apollo

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh

...

Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

NO. Not really. Similar though.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias

...

Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

But them have same voice?

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

...

Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Hi,

Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson powered synth.

...

Andrew.

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[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias

...

Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh

...

Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca

...

Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to

Anatolay, This question has been asked about a million times. Sorry if I'm coming across a bit harsh but people have done a lot of research into making a BIOS accessible. I suggest you go google this question. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Anatoliy Shudrya Sent: 18 December 2014 18:58 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Are these hardware synthesizers capable of making BIOS accessible? I got to IT with software synthesizers only and never had a change to work with one of the hardware once. Always wondered if it worse the effort to invest in one of the hardware synth to be able working on the BIOS level when needed. Do they have one with USB connection? Sorry it's kind of off the topic. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:44 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Oh they are. I still prefer Eloquence for basic computing where I have the speech cranked up though. But for pleasure reading, the more human-sounding voices for sure. At 01:38 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote: portability.

...

...

It also worked as double duty as a portable

synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

...

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates

how a little flexibility can go a long way

...

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

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[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra

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Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca

...

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

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Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

...

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of

[mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool.

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Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

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Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access.

http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.

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m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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NO. Not really. Similar though. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

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...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Hi, Yes same voice. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 17:08 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers But them have same voice? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: den 18 december 2014 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Hi, Juno is smaller, has a slightly inferior speaker and can be powered by battery where as Apollo is external powered synth. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: 18 December 2014 16:38 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Hm? Juno and appollo are the same? Or what are different -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: den 18 december 2014 17:19 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

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...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Steven, Sorry for my bluntness but What are you talking about? No one is talking about adding hardware to NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 19:36 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers I was as well too needing to be elastic but was just commenting, that NVDA should be left without needing to ad on any hardware as it works well without hardware being added -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:19 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Steven, Sorry for my bluntness but What are you talking about? No one is talking about adding hardware to NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 19:36 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers I was as well too needing to be elastic but was just commenting, that NVDA should be left without needing to ad on any hardware as it works well without hardware being added -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:19 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2. I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability. It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time. A friend of mine uses the following statement often: "I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic." I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Sorry, my meds are two strong or the beer is playing havoc with my psyche -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:06 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers Yeah Steve, you're honestly not making much sense. At 05:45 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

Steven,

Sorry for my bluntness but What are you talking about? No one is talking about adding hardware to NVDA.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 19:36 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

I was as well too needing to be elastic but was just commenting, that NVDA should be left without needing to ad on any hardware as it works well without hardware being added

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:19 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability.

It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

...

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got

but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool.

...

Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Pffft. Final year of university. Had some proof of concept software that I was going to get people to test & have it redirect to a questionair afterwards. Software was done, just needed to write the questionair; no biggy. Go to party. 10 pints & quite a bit of homebrew mead. Come back & find that Survey Monkey have made some changes that have broken accessibility. End up having to write my own survey software. Got it all working perfectly with 4 hours to spare for sleep. On 12/18/14, Chris Smart wrote:

i hope it's good beer at least.

At 06:14 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

...

Sorry, my meds are two strong or the beer is playing havoc with my psyche

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:06 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Yeah Steve, you're honestly not making much sense.

At 05:45 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

...

Steven,

Sorry for my bluntness but What are you talking about? No one is talking about adding hardware to NVDA.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 19:36 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

I was as well too needing to be elastic but was just commenting, that NVDA should be left without needing to ad on any hardware as it works well without hardware being added

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:19 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability.

It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

...

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got

but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool.

...

Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Care to share some of that medication? :) On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Stephen Guerra wrote:

Sorry, my meds are two strong or the beer is playing havoc with my psyche

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:06 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Yeah Steve, you're honestly not making much sense.

At 05:45 PM 12/18/2014, you wrote:

...

Steven,

Sorry for my bluntness but What are you talking about? No one is talking about adding hardware to NVDA.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 19:36 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

I was as well too needing to be elastic but was just commenting, that NVDA should be left without needing to ad on any hardware as it works well without hardware being added

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:19 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Vic, I was the same to a certain extent. When I started, I had a Juno and an Apollo 2.

I lived with Hal 4 for years! I mean years. I must have used it from 1993 to 2003 when I needed to do something in Dos. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: 18 December 2014 15:57 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Serial Synthesizers

Well, back then the Braille n' Speak was an OK note taker. We didn't have much to choose from when it came to portability.

It also worked as double duty as a portable synthesizer. For example when taking a course where the classroom was a computer lab. If you had text to speech software that you could install on one of the classroom computers the BnS worked as a synthesizer. Remember there was a time when we didn't have access to software synthesizers. Many of us taking networking courses, classes that required the use of terminal emulation programs to access minis, mainframes etc. or anything else that used a computer we had to be flexible and creative to make those classroom environments work for us. If we expected the training companies and instructors to set all that up for us, we would have been waiting for a very very long time.

A friend of mine uses the following statement often:

"I used to be plastic, but now I am elastic."

I like that saying, because it demonstrates how a little flexibility can go a long way

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: December-18-14 9:39 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

...

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got

but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote: the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool.

...

Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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