A question for those on the list to answer:
If colleges and Universities are finding it difficult, or impossible to meet the demands of advocates for legislative change to make their academic services satisfactory for their challenged students, (see the accompanying link) and if this fact is published for all who care to do so to read. How can we expect potential employers of the blind to assume we blind employees won't present to them an undue burden on their already strained resources. When they could just as easily hire an unchallenged individual to do the same job? Is it any wonder so many of us blind people are unemployed. The potential employer is just overwhelmed by assumed obstacles which may appear to him to be insurmountable. Given a choice between hiring a blind or a sighted candidate, what would provide the incentive for a potential employer to hire a blind employee above one with sight. For whom no particular accommodations would have to be met? https://www.nfbcal.org/pipermail/brl-monitor/2014/000033.html **The nice thing about being a celebrity is that if you bore people they think it's their fault.** Henry Kissinger
I think there are bigger problems for the blind community that impact the employment rate than going to or not going to college / university. I’m talking about real basic personal presentation type things and the ability to interact professionally. That’s been my own experience though and may be off base. That being said, I think a degree must help. Maybe I’m brainwashed and that’s not the route I went but I still think it has to help. If for nothing else it shows the candidate is put together enough to pass their classes and complete a long term project. I do agree by the time they get out it’s likely what they learned on the technical side is outdated but the basic concepts should not be.
On Oct 21, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Angel <angel238@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
If colleges and Universities are finding it difficult, or impossible to meet the demands of advocates for legislative change to make their academic services satisfactory for their challenged students, (see the accompanying link) and if this fact is published for all who care to do so to read. How can we expect potential employers of the blind to assume we blind employees won't present to them an undue burden on their already strained resources. When they could just as easily hire an unchallenged individual to do the same job? Is it any wonder so many of us blind people are unemployed. The potential employer is just overwhelmed by assumed obstacles which may appear to him to be insurmountable. Given a choice between hiring a blind or a sighted candidate, what would provide the incentive for a potential employer to hire a blind employee above one with sight. For whom no particular accommodations would have to be met? https://www.nfbcal.org/pipermail/brl-monitor/2014/000033.html
**The nice thing about being a celebrity is that if you bore people they think it's their fault.** Henry Kissinger
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I have been reading this back and forth for quite some time. The bottom line is that any proof that you have that you as a blind person is able to learn and able to grow is a good thing to have and only a plus for you. I am completing a Master of Cyber Security at Wright State University here in Ohio. WSU is rated very high as far as accessibility is concerned but it is still a fight which I believe will make me a better employee for any company. I have all 3 things that we have discussed, certifications, experience, and will be getting my second degree in December. Going to college has only serve to enhance my employability and has given me more weapons in the fight to get a job. I don't worry about test from the 1800's or whether a teacher needs a masters to teach because teachers are always encouraged to get a masters. I will call myself a success because of the combination of education and experience that I have. Anything that we as practitioners of our information tech nology craft can do to get us noticed and distinguished from the other guy trying to get a job is good. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:50 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] A question for those on the list to answer: I think there are bigger problems for the blind community that impact the employment rate than going to or not going to college / university. I’m talking about real basic personal presentation type things and the ability to interact professionally. That’s been my own experience though and may be off base. That being said, I think a degree must help. Maybe I’m brainwashed and that’s not the route I went but I still think it has to help. If for nothing else it shows the candidate is put together enough to pass their classes and complete a long term project. I do agree by the time they get out it’s likely what they learned on the technical side is outdated but the basic concepts should not be.
On Oct 21, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Angel <angel238@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
If colleges and Universities are finding it difficult, or impossible to meet the demands of advocates for legislative change to make their academic services satisfactory for their challenged students, (see the accompanying link) and if this fact is published for all who care to do so to read. How can we expect potential employers of the blind to assume we blind employees won't present to them an undue burden on their already strained resources. When they could just as easily hire an unchallenged individual to do the same job? Is it any wonder so many of us blind people are unemployed. The potential employer is just overwhelmed by assumed obstacles which may appear to him to be insurmountable. Given a choice between hiring a blind or a sighted candidate, what would provide the incentive for a potential employer to hire a blind employee above one with sight. For whom no particular accommodations would have to be met? https://www.nfbcal.org/pipermail/brl-monitor/2014/000033.html
**The nice thing about being a celebrity is that if you bore people they think it's their fault.** Henry Kissinger
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What you have said is well put. You aren't off base at all in your post. So many things which should be taught blind students, regardless their University matriculation seems, from what I read on these lists to be lacking. Thereby more perfectly preparing them for the work world. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <scott@granados-llc.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] A question for those on the list to answer:
I think there are bigger problems for the blind community that impact the employment rate than going to or not going to college / university. I’m talking about real basic personal presentation type things and the ability to interact professionally. That’s been my own experience though and may be off base.
That being said, I think a degree must help. Maybe I’m brainwashed and that’s not the route I went but I still think it has to help. If for nothing else it shows the candidate is put together enough to pass their classes and complete a long term project. I do agree by the time they get out it’s likely what they learned on the technical side is outdated but the basic concepts should not be.
On Oct 21, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Angel <angel238@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
If colleges and Universities are finding it difficult, or impossible to meet the demands of advocates for legislative change to make their academic services satisfactory for their challenged students, (see the accompanying link) and if this fact is published for all who care to do so to read. How can we expect potential employers of the blind to assume we blind employees won't present to them an undue burden on their already strained resources. When they could just as easily hire an unchallenged individual to do the same job? Is it any wonder so many of us blind people are unemployed. The potential employer is just overwhelmed by assumed obstacles which may appear to him to be insurmountable. Given a choice between hiring a blind or a sighted candidate, what would provide the incentive for a potential employer to hire a blind employee above one with sight. For whom no particular accommodations would have to be met? https://www.nfbcal.org/pipermail/brl-monitor/2014/000033.html
**The nice thing about being a celebrity is that if you bore people they think it's their fault.** Henry Kissinger
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