yet another vmware question
I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work. Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation?
Hi John: Just for clarification, you'd wipe Windows from the workstation, install Linux, install VMWare Server then install Windows as a VM ontop of the Linux host? I'd actually not recommend doing this, mainly due to accessibility of the VMWare product under Linux, you're going to have to use a GUI to do what it sounds like you want to do. An alternative might be to put VMWare Server or Workstation on the Windows host and then have a Linux guest, possibly using the new VMWare converter 4.0 beta to P2V it. I think that'd be more productive for you longterm. As to server or workstation, I have workstation myself and really like it for doing things like what you want. Workstation 6.5 is quite nice. I realize it costs money though, and the free server product would probably meet your needs, although depending on interface issues it might be clunky. If you never mean to access the console of the VM itself you should be fine with server. You can do it its just more involved with the new 2.0 release. I believe that the free server and Workstation 6.5 can read the same virtual machine files, and you can get a 30 day demo of workstation so you can download and try both and use what meets your needs the best. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work. Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi John: Just for clarification, you'd wipe Windows from the workstation, install Linux, install VMWare Server then install Windows as a VM ontop of the Linux host? I'd actually not recommend doing this, mainly due to accessibility of the VMWare product under Linux, you're going to have to use a GUI to do what it sounds like you want to do. An alternative might be to put VMWare Server or Workstation on the Windows host and then have a Linux guest, possibly using the new VMWare converter 4.0 beta to P2V it. I think that'd be more productive for you longterm. As to server or workstation, I have workstation myself and really like it for doing things like what you want. Workstation 6.5 is quite nice. I realize it costs money though, and the free server product would probably meet your needs, although depending on interface issues it might be clunky. If you never mean to access the console of the VM itself you should be fine with server. You can do it its just more involved with the new 2.0 release. I believe that the free server and Workstation 6.5 can read the same virtual machine files, and you can get a 30 day demo of workstation so you can download and try both and use what meets your needs the best. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work. Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I'm not going to run linux as a virtual machine under windows. That's just wrong. But jaws will work in a virtual windows machine in vmware server? I don't care how hard it is to get working as long as it can be done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
Hi John: Just for clarification, you'd wipe Windows from the workstation, install Linux, install VMWare Server then install Windows as a VM ontop of the Linux host? I'd actually not recommend doing this, mainly due to accessibility of the VMWare product under Linux, you're going to have to use a GUI to do what it sounds like you want to do. An alternative might be to put VMWare Server or Workstation on the Windows host and then have a Linux guest, possibly using the new VMWare converter 4.0 beta to P2V it. I think that'd be more productive for you longterm. As to server or workstation, I have workstation myself and really like it for doing things like what you want. Workstation 6.5 is quite nice. I realize it costs money though, and the free server product would probably meet your needs, although depending on interface issues it might be clunky. If you never mean to access the console of the VM itself you should be fine with server. You can do it its just more involved with the new 2.0 release. I believe that the free server and Workstation 6.5 can read the same virtual machine files, and you can get a 30 day demo of workstation so you can download and try both and use what meets your needs the best. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work.
Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation?
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Hi, The only thing that would concern me about running Vmware under Linux would be accessing the Vmware consoles and management tools. I know that some of these did run in an X-windows session on the Linux side, though you would need to check out what scripts were provided. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: 21 November 2008 01:59 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question I'm not going to run linux as a virtual machine under windows. That's just wrong. But jaws will work in a virtual windows machine in vmware server? I don't care how hard it is to get working as long as it can be done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
Hi John: Just for clarification, you'd wipe Windows from the workstation, install Linux, install VMWare Server then install Windows as a VM ontop of the Linux host? I'd actually not recommend doing this, mainly due to accessibility of the VMWare product under Linux, you're going to have to use a GUI to do what it sounds like you want to do. An alternative might be to put VMWare Server or Workstation on the Windows host and then have a Linux guest, possibly using the new VMWare converter 4.0 beta to P2V it. I think that'd be more productive for you longterm. As to server or workstation, I have workstation myself and really like it for doing things like what you want. Workstation 6.5 is quite nice. I realize it costs money though, and the free server product would probably meet your needs, although depending on interface issues it might be clunky. If you never mean to access the console of the VM itself you should be fine with server. You can do it its just more involved with the new 2.0 release. I believe that the free server and Workstation 6.5 can read the same virtual machine files, and you can get a 30 day demo of workstation so you can download and try both and use what meets your needs the best. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work.
Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation?
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Hi, The only thing that would concern me about running Vmware under Linux would be accessing the Vmware consoles and management tools. I know that some of these did run in an X-windows session on the Linux side, though you would need to check out what scripts were provided. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: 21 November 2008 01:59 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question I'm not going to run linux as a virtual machine under windows. That's just wrong. But jaws will work in a virtual windows machine in vmware server? I don't care how hard it is to get working as long as it can be done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
Hi John: Just for clarification, you'd wipe Windows from the workstation, install Linux, install VMWare Server then install Windows as a VM ontop of the Linux host? I'd actually not recommend doing this, mainly due to accessibility of the VMWare product under Linux, you're going to have to use a GUI to do what it sounds like you want to do. An alternative might be to put VMWare Server or Workstation on the Windows host and then have a Linux guest, possibly using the new VMWare converter 4.0 beta to P2V it. I think that'd be more productive for you longterm. As to server or workstation, I have workstation myself and really like it for doing things like what you want. Workstation 6.5 is quite nice. I realize it costs money though, and the free server product would probably meet your needs, although depending on interface issues it might be clunky. If you never mean to access the console of the VM itself you should be fine with server. You can do it its just more involved with the new 2.0 release. I believe that the free server and Workstation 6.5 can read the same virtual machine files, and you can get a 30 day demo of workstation so you can download and try both and use what meets your needs the best. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:00 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] yet another vmware question
I have a Windows PC that I pretty much use only as a Windows terminal. I mean, I do web browsing, read email, and use ssh. But all my real work is done on a linux box. I was thinking of combining the 2 machines by installing vmware server and then running Windows as a virtual machine. I was thinking that then I'd ssh from the virtual machine to the real machine to do my work.
Is the fre vmware product vmware server good enough? Do I need to pay for vmware workstation?
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