Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above
Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.))
Hi, Some of the GPO dialogs are a bit tricky to navigate but I usually get round this through the JFW cursor. Are you using client tools or doing all this work from the server? Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: 02 January 2015 04:01 To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.)) _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Some of the GPO dialogs are a bit tricky to navigate but I usually get round this through the JFW cursor. Are you using client tools or doing all this work from the server? Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: 02 January 2015 04:01 To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.)) _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I'm using RSAT, actually; I hardly ever use RDP unless a need arises for it; like one of the RSAT doesn't give me what I want. Example, WDS. And what is the equivalent to the JAWS cursor in NVDA? NVDA's my primary screen reader and I only switch to JAWS on a temporary basis and if I absolutely must. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 12:31 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above Hi, Some of the GPO dialogs are a bit tricky to navigate but I usually get round this through the JFW cursor. Are you using client tools or doing all this work from the server? Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: 02 January 2015 04:01 To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.)) _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Please read the NVDA docs about the review cursor. It allows you to go through NVDAs object tree, thereby reading/working with non-focusable items. Switching the review cursor to Screen review is more like the JAWS cursor, as it gives a line by line view of the current window. However, the screen review seems to just present text and no object types information (e.g. checkbox/button/etc). However, by pointing the review cursor at something in the screen review mode and switchign back to object mode, it will try to put the review cursor on the corresponding object, so you can further explore the tree from there. Granted, this all is not the same as a JAWS cursor, but especially in newer applications that use UIA/MSAA, a tree is a much better fit. Best, Bram On 2-1-2015 21:15, Katherine Moss wrote:
I'm using RSAT, actually; I hardly ever use RDP unless a need arises for it; like one of the RSAT doesn't give me what I want. Example, WDS. And what is the equivalent to the JAWS cursor in NVDA? NVDA's my primary screen reader and I only switch to JAWS on a temporary basis and if I absolutely must.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 12:31 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above
Hi,
Some of the GPO dialogs are a bit tricky to navigate but I usually get round this through the JFW cursor. Are you using client tools or doing all this work from the server?
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: 02 January 2015 04:01 To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above
Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.)) _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Thanks for the clarification; that's just, like, what I was looking for. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Bram Duvigneau Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 5:51 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above Please read the NVDA docs about the review cursor. It allows you to go through NVDAs object tree, thereby reading/working with non-focusable items. Switching the review cursor to Screen review is more like the JAWS cursor, as it gives a line by line view of the current window. However, the screen review seems to just present text and no object types information (e.g. checkbox/button/etc). However, by pointing the review cursor at something in the screen review mode and switchign back to object mode, it will try to put the review cursor on the corresponding object, so you can further explore the tree from there. Granted, this all is not the same as a JAWS cursor, but especially in newer applications that use UIA/MSAA, a tree is a much better fit. Best, Bram On 2-1-2015 21:15, Katherine Moss wrote:
I'm using RSAT, actually; I hardly ever use RDP unless a need arises for it; like one of the RSAT doesn't give me what I want. Example, WDS. And what is the equivalent to the JAWS cursor in NVDA? NVDA's my primary screen reader and I only switch to JAWS on a temporary basis and if I absolutely must.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 12:31 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above
Hi,
Some of the GPO dialogs are a bit tricky to navigate but I usually get round this through the JFW cursor. Are you using client tools or doing all this work from the server?
Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: 02 January 2015 04:01 To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Group Policy management with screen readerrs in Windows server 2012 and above
Blink-sysadmins@liists.hodgsonfamily.orgHi all, Not sure if this has been a problem for you guys? It's been one for me, that's for sure. I was attempting to create a GPO that sets the hide extensions for known file types to on for an entire set of OUs in my network, and I could get as far as the dialog where all of the folder options settings are, and then under the options, I could only see the headings, not the checkboxes; a problem for both NVDA and JAWS. Would I be able to use PowerShell to get around this? Has anyone else had this issue before? (some of the tools in Windows server 2012 R2 and above need some serious NVDA add-on work I think.)) _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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