From that point, I either run JAWS by typing the executable in the RUN

Hi, Remote Incident manager is better than Tandem, since it is screen reader independent, and does allow you to copy. More expensive though, an enterprise solution. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibraam Wahib Sent: 11 October 2012 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely is jaws v11.756 work in this? I know that jaws tandem not allow copying files. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Coleman" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely In my experience, JAWS12 or 13 work the best for remote sessions, though a version of JFW has to be installed on both the host and the guest. With JAWS running on your primary/local machine, type the following at the command line: MSTSC /v This should prompt for login credentials for the remote machine. I generally wait to hear the Windows login sound to know that I'm in the remote session. dialog, or install it, if need be. If you just need to copy files from one machine to another, Windows Explorer should work just fine for that. -----Original Message----- From: Ibraam Wahib [mailto:ibraam.wahib@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely dears may u able to help me n performing this task.. i need to configure computer remotely I might need to copy file from my pc to the another machine and install utilities. so, which program is useful for this task? and any tutorials for it will be thankful. note: both computers running windows os. many thanks for your support. ibraam _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

From that point, I either run JAWS by typing the executable in the RUN

Hi, Ok, being quite contravercial here, do you know of many enterprises using RIM as a solution? For us it is too expensive compared to the competition, especially given that it would only be me using the screen reader features. For the A.T vendors it is perfect, but who is it marketed for? Just an honest question. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 11 October 2012 14:00 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely Hi, Remote Incident manager is better than Tandem, since it is screen reader independent, and does allow you to copy. More expensive though, an enterprise solution. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibraam Wahib Sent: 11 October 2012 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely is jaws v11.756 work in this? I know that jaws tandem not allow copying files. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Coleman" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely In my experience, JAWS12 or 13 work the best for remote sessions, though a version of JFW has to be installed on both the host and the guest. With JAWS running on your primary/local machine, type the following at the command line: MSTSC /v This should prompt for login credentials for the remote machine. I generally wait to hear the Windows login sound to know that I'm in the remote session. dialog, or install it, if need be. If you just need to copy files from one machine to another, Windows Explorer should work just fine for that. -----Original Message----- From: Ibraam Wahib [mailto:ibraam.wahib@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely dears may u able to help me n performing this task.. i need to configure computer remotely I might need to copy file from my pc to the another machine and install utilities. so, which program is useful for this task? and any tutorials for it will be thankful. note: both computers running windows os. many thanks for your support. ibraam _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

From that point, I either run JAWS by typing the executable in the RUN

Hi Andrew, If you were to use it as a VIP though surely ATW would cover the costs? Therefore it's not your company who'd be out of pocket, or if they did have to pay anything it would be quite small and would fall into reasonable adjustments. Cheers, Barry. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 11 October 2012 15:30 To: steve@comproom.co.uk; Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely Hi, Ok, being quite contravercial here, do you know of many enterprises using RIM as a solution? For us it is too expensive compared to the competition, especially given that it would only be me using the screen reader features. For the A.T vendors it is perfect, but who is it marketed for? Just an honest question. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 11 October 2012 14:00 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely Hi, Remote Incident manager is better than Tandem, since it is screen reader independent, and does allow you to copy. More expensive though, an enterprise solution. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibraam Wahib Sent: 11 October 2012 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely is jaws v11.756 work in this? I know that jaws tandem not allow copying files. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Coleman" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely In my experience, JAWS12 or 13 work the best for remote sessions, though a version of JFW has to be installed on both the host and the guest. With JAWS running on your primary/local machine, type the following at the command line: MSTSC /v This should prompt for login credentials for the remote machine. I generally wait to hear the Windows login sound to know that I'm in the remote session. dialog, or install it, if need be. If you just need to copy files from one machine to another, Windows Explorer should work just fine for that. -----Original Message----- From: Ibraam Wahib [mailto:ibraam.wahib@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely dears may u able to help me n performing this task.. i need to configure computer remotely I might need to copy file from my pc to the another machine and install utilities. so, which program is useful for this task? and any tutorials for it will be thankful. note: both computers running windows os. many thanks for your support. ibraam _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

From that point, I either run JAWS by typing the executable in the RUN

Remote Access Manager or RIM will work Stephen Guerra Assistive Technology Specialist and Technical Operations independent living aids, LLC | SOUNDBYTES 200 Robbins Lane Jericho, New York 11753-2341 Phone: 800.537.2118 Direct: 516.450.3817 Fax: 516.450.3842 E-mail: stephen@independentliving.com Web sites: www.independentliving.com www.soundbytes.com -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:00 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely Hi, Remote Incident manager is better than Tandem, since it is screen reader independent, and does allow you to copy. More expensive though, an enterprise solution. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibraam Wahib Sent: 11 October 2012 13:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely is jaws v11.756 work in this? I know that jaws tandem not allow copying files. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Coleman" To: "Blind sysadmins list" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely In my experience, JAWS12 or 13 work the best for remote sessions, though a version of JFW has to be installed on both the host and the guest. With JAWS running on your primary/local machine, type the following at the command line: MSTSC /v This should prompt for login credentials for the remote machine. I generally wait to hear the Windows login sound to know that I'm in the remote session. dialog, or install it, if need be. If you just need to copy files from one machine to another, Windows Explorer should work just fine for that. -----Original Message----- From: Ibraam Wahib [mailto:ibraam.wahib@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely dears may u able to help me n performing this task.. i need to configure computer remotely I might need to copy file from my pc to the another machine and install utilities. so, which program is useful for this task? and any tutorials for it will be thankful. note: both computers running windows os. many thanks for your support. ibraam _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hi, If you use Jaws in this mode you need an RDP license for the JFW running on your machine. That is why I use WindowEyes in this situation with RDP. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Alex Coleman Sent: 11 October 2012 13:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely In my experience, JAWS12 or 13 work the best for remote sessions, though a version of JFW has to be installed on both the host and the guest. With JAWS running on your primary/local machine, type the following at the command line: MSTSC /v This should prompt for login credentials for the remote machine. I generally wait to hear the Windows login sound to know that I'm in the remote session.

From that point, I either run JAWS by typing the executable in the RUN dialog, or install it, if need be.

If you just need to copy files from one machine to another, Windows Explorer should work just fine for that. -----Original Message----- From: Ibraam Wahib [mailto:ibraam.wahib@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:41 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely dears may u able to help me n performing this task.. i need to configure computer remotely I might need to copy file from my pc to the another machine and install utilities. so, which program is useful for this task? and any tutorials for it will be thankful. note: both computers running windows os. many thanks for your support. ibraam _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hello all, I have had reasonable success connecting to servers with only nvda on them. You must enable audio reidrection in the group policy. Then any screen reader on the server feeds back to the remote computer. It may be a bit slower, but it works. Troy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mgr. Janusz Chmiel Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:56 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] connect remotely Dear system administrators, Because Remote incident manager is commercial software, Javs must run also in special licensed commercial mode to enable visually impaired users to work with remote systems, it is very sad situation. The fact is, that only SSH and telnet protocols are accessible with screen readers, it is also inpossible to control GTK compatible desktop environments while running two various Linux systems with Orca and some GTK compatible remote desktop control application. I will give You direct link for download The special program, which is usable for voice chat, remote desktop control, this option is screen reader incompatible, and there is also file manager mode, which will enable You to transfer data between two connected computers. Download The program from here. http://www.ammyy.com/AA_v3.exe The sad is, that remote accessibility bridge can not be used for several years and i hope, that this product will be in some Year available for users. But i think, that it will become expensive commercial solution or it will be only available for some university students. There are many various remote desktop control programs, which are free for sighted users, but for us, this kind of software is inaccessible with screen readers. No matter, if it is screen reader for Linux or for Windows operating system. OCR engine included with NVDA can not perform OCR while triing to read texts from remote desktops screens. So if some programmers will not make free solution, users will be depend on Expensive Jaws or RIM. MI think, that NVDA would be used in conjunction with some remote desktop application. But there is one not elegant, but legal and free solution. Use Skype in conjunction with some remote desktop application, use high quality microphone and run screen reader on A computer, which You would to control. USe speech synthesizer in conjunction with this screen reader. You will not be able to solve all complex system administration situations, but because also RIM must run with system, which is stable enough to enable RIM to call all .dlls and system services, You will get atleast some solution. USe some live projects based on Make_PE3 or Winbuilder.exe. USE special USB filter drivers to access external USB harddisk to use virtual memory while using windows live environment in conjunction with Skype. And because NVDA portable can be run without no need to modifi registry keys, You can use it too. The problem is, that it is not possible to use voice transfer in conjunction with remote system administration while using majority of remote desktop applications such as teamwiever. I think, that i have gave You atleast some kind of advice. With kindness regards. Mgr. Janusz Chmiel _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins