Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you’d take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan
as far as i know you cant install windows server with narrator. or iven if you can the core are not accessible so you are forced to install the full system Den 15 december 2020 21:10:13 skrev Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com>: Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you’d take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Please don't use server core. I have not had any success with running Jaws remotely on this since the first versions of core 2016. Each time, I encounter no errors but Jaws simply doesn't start. -----Original Message----- From: mattias jonsson <mj@mjw.se> Sent: Tuesday 15 December 2020 20:30 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: server core and accessibility as far as i know you cant install windows server with narrator. or iven if you can the core are not accessible so you are forced to install the full system Den 15 december 2020 21:10:13 skrev Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com>: Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you'd take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi, I would go so far as to say unless you use some sort of config management like DSC Chef etc as well as using a remote monitoring system like Azure Monitor, Server Core won't give you the necessary fundamentals to run your servers in production. Would be interested to see if people are running Core in prod without any config management across multiple servers and how it works for them. I run Server Core in several places but JFW doesn't get near it and everything controlled using DSC with Azure Automation accounts. I also have a few Docker instances but we don't talk about Docker on Windows! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> Sent: 15 December 2020 21:23 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: server core and accessibility Please don't use server core. I have not had any success with running Jaws remotely on this since the first versions of core 2016. Each time, I encounter no errors but Jaws simply doesn't start. -----Original Message----- From: mattias jonsson <mj@mjw.se> Sent: Tuesday 15 December 2020 20:30 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org>; Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: server core and accessibility as far as i know you cant install windows server with narrator. or iven if you can the core are not accessible so you are forced to install the full system Den 15 december 2020 21:10:13 skrev Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com>: Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you'd take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hello Ryan, I would certainly use server core more if I could access it via RDP. I'm quite comfortable with PowerShell so for domain controllers, certificate services etc, I would have no hesitation in running these from lighter servers. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Sent: Tuesday 15 December 2020 20:10 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] server core and accessibility Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you’d take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Thanks everyone for the feedback, we're definitely going to use it to help drive the team's decisions on where to invest resources going forward. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 6:31 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: server core and accessibility Hello Ryan, I would certainly use server core more if I could access it via RDP. I'm quite comfortable with PowerShell so for domain controllers, certificate services etc, I would have no hesitation in running these from lighter servers. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> Sent: Tuesday 15 December 2020 20:10 To: Mailing list for blind system administrators <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] server core and accessibility Hi everyone: I wanted to throw a question out to those of you who regularly work with Windows servers. When setting up a new server, do you go for server core or the full desktop experience? Are your reasons accessibility based at all, AKA would you use server core more if you could run a screen reader directly on the server, even built in AT such as Narrator? If you need to use servers running Server Core in your job, how do you do so today and what are your concerns around this method? Is remote access through tools like Powershell, server manager, Windows Admin center enough for day to day use or is not having normal console access an issue? Do you use Emergency Management Services<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/bootcfg-ems> to get serial console access or is that approach you’d take if you needed it? Thanks a lot for your help. Ryan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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