Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh
Jaws - No Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Jaws - yes. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh [d@digitaldarragh.com] Sent: 25 May 2016 12:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Jaws - yes. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh [d@digitaldarragh.com] Sent: 25 May 2016 12:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
NVDA and no. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 25 May 2016 12:53 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Jaws - yes. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh [d@digitaldarragh.com] Sent: 25 May 2016 12:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
NVDA and no. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 25 May 2016 12:53 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Jaws - yes. Andrew. ________________________________________ From: Blind-sysadmins [blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh [d@digitaldarragh.com] Sent: 25 May 2016 12:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Window-Eyes. Yes Sent from my iPhone
On May 25, 2016, at 07:11, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
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Orca, and yes. On 05/25/2016 07:07 AM, Matthew White wrote:
Window-Eyes. Yes
Sent from my iPhone
On May 25, 2016, at 07:11, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Window-eyes Yes -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Window-eyes Yes -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, Window-Eyes, yes. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 25 May 2016 12:12 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Jaws/VoiceOver, Yes Respectfully, Stephen Guerra, President Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Blind, Low-Vision and Deaf-Blind Authorized State of Minnesota Vendor for Technology Training ICanConnect Assessor/Trainer ICanConnect Contact by phone, Guerra Access Technology Training LLC, 507.722.2864 Email Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Interact with Guerra Access Technology Training Visit Guerra Access Technology Training on the Web Follow Guerra Access Technology Training on Twitter Visit the Guerra Access Technology Training page on Facebook Connect with me on LinkedIn -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
nvda yes Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 05/25/2016 7:11 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Jaws yes German -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Jaws. Yes Thanks Sean
On 25 May 2016, at 12:11, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Jaws, Yes -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Sean Randall Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:37 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Jaws. Yes Thanks Sean
On 25 May 2016, at 12:11, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Jaws No -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
JAWS, yes. Chris On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:11:55AM +0000, Darragh ? H?iligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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JAWS, Yes. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
JAWS, Yes. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
JAWS No On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback. Here are the results: Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed Window Eyes . 4 employed Orca . 2 employed Overall, I think this is really encouraging. It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment. It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment. Thanks again Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. JAWS No On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback. Here are the results: Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed Window Eyes . 4 employed Orca . 2 employed Overall, I think this is really encouraging. It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment. It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment. Thanks again Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. JAWS No On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you
I use JAWS and yes I'm working hence not seeing your original request till now having just signed on at home. I've no time for mailing lists at work. Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 25 May 2016 18:59 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback. Here are the results: Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed Window Eyes . 4 employed Orca . 2 employed Overall, I think this is really encouraging. It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment. It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment. Thanks again Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. JAWS No On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote: primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not.
For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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-- Todd
The survey provided the informationI needed as although the Linux users were interesting, theprimary focus was Windows. Thanks for your input. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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The survey provided the informationI needed as although the Linux users were interesting, theprimary focus was Windows. Thanks for your input. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Hi, It's interesting, I would say in the main the topics on the list aren't really sysadmin stuff at all, but mainly more complex desktop issues. The main topics over the years have been surrounding WinPE and recovery tools. I would love to see more sysadmin problem solving type questions go up here if we can do that. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi, It's interesting, I would say in the main the topics on the list aren't really sysadmin stuff at all, but mainly more complex desktop issues. The main topics over the years have been surrounding WinPE and recovery tools. I would love to see more sysadmin problem solving type questions go up here if we can do that. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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-- Todd _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you
Yes, I wish there was more on Linux on here. Have you any recommendations for good lists to follow concerning Linux and VI's, particularly covering working in the corporate/business world? Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists. Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed. On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote: primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not.
For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Well, there is the talk list of the International Association of Visually Impaired Technologists. It hav very low volume though. Quite a disappointment to me. I wish people would use it more. talk-subscribe@iavit.org Another low-volume list but one with a lot of expertise in linux for pros is the blinux list: blinux-list-subscribe@redhat.com There are also lists for the character screen reader, speakup, the GUI screen reader orca, and for the blind-friendly distros vinux and sonar. The orca list has very high volume. orca-list-subscribe@gnome.org On 05/26/2016 01:03 PM, Phil Rigby wrote:
Yes, I wish there was more on Linux on here. Have you any recommendations for good lists to follow concerning Linux and VI's, particularly covering working in the corporate/business world?
Phil.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists.
Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed.
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment. Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you
On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote: primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not.
For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Thanks very much for this info. I will take a look at these suggestions. Much appreciated. Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G Heim Sent: 26 May 2016 19:13 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Well, there is the talk list of the International Association of Visually Impaired Technologists. It hav very low volume though. Quite a disappointment to me. I wish people would use it more. talk-subscribe@iavit.org Another low-volume list but one with a lot of expertise in linux for pros is the blinux list: blinux-list-subscribe@redhat.com There are also lists for the character screen reader, speakup, the GUI screen reader orca, and for the blind-friendly distros vinux and sonar. The orca list has very high volume. orca-list-subscribe@gnome.org On 05/26/2016 01:03 PM, Phil Rigby wrote:
Yes, I wish there was more on Linux on here. Have you any recommendations for good lists to follow concerning Linux and VI's, particularly covering working in the corporate/business world?
Phil.
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: 25 May 2016 21:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
It's hard to say if this list is representative of the blind sys admin community as a whole. My impression is that linux users are under represented. It could be that the list attracts Windows users because there are a lot of Windows questions asked and answered on this list. Or it could be that I think linux users are under represented because I am on so many linux user lists.
Also, this list almost certainly attractspeople who are already employed.
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment. Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you
On 05/25/2016 12:58 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote: primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not.
For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Darragh: Sorry I wasn’t able to chime in earlier, I’m just now reading this thread. Window-Eyes and yes I’m employed. I do also use NVDA, its not my primary screen reader but it is installed on my machine. I’m surprised the NVDA numbers aren’t higher since its free and a no risk install, at least as a secondary screen reader. It sounds like you’re using this as an argument for making sure an application is tested with a particular application is tested and which screen reader it should be tested with? If this is simple testing to see does the application work with a screen reader, I would not recommend JAWS or Window-Eyes. NVDA and even Windows Narrator will give you a good easy feel of was the application designed with accessibility in mind and is it working as they are a lot more raw in how they handle the various accessibility APIs. Both JAWS and Window-Eyes have hacks and work arounds, so sometimes even if something is not implemented to the raw spec it will still read in one or the other, but if you go with Narrator or NVDA and it reads, it will read in Window-Eyes or JAWS. More complex testing such as user base testing, absolutely go with JAWS or Window-Eyes, but NVDA and Narrator are good at getting a good feel for will this work in its raw form as implemented. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi, Jaws and yes but with the caveats that a: the sysadmin part of my role is mainly Linux and b: I unofficially use NVDA quite a bit as well. Cheers, Ben. On 5/26/16, Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> wrote:
Darragh: Sorry I wasn’t able to chime in earlier, I’m just now reading this thread. Window-Eyes and yes I’m employed. I do also use NVDA, its not my primary screen reader but it is installed on my machine. I’m surprised the NVDA numbers aren’t higher since its free and a no risk install, at least as a secondary screen reader. It sounds like you’re using this as an argument for making sure an application is tested with a particular application is tested and which screen reader it should be tested with? If this is simple testing to see does the application work with a screen reader, I would not recommend JAWS or Window-Eyes. NVDA and even Windows Narrator will give you a good easy feel of was the application designed with accessibility in mind and is it working as they are a lot more raw in how they handle the various accessibility APIs. Both JAWS and Window-Eyes have hacks and work arounds, so sometimes even if something is not implemented to the raw spec it will still read in one or the other, but if you go with Narrator or NVDA and it reads, it will read in Window-Eyes or JAWS. More complex testing such as user base testing, absolutely go with JAWS or Window-Eyes, but NVDA and Narrator are good at getting a good feel for will this work in its raw form as implemented. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Hi, Jaws and yes but with the caveats that a: the sysadmin part of my role is mainly Linux and b: I unofficially use NVDA quite a bit as well. Cheers, Ben. On 5/26/16, Ryan Shugart <rshugart@ryanshugart.com> wrote:
Darragh: Sorry I wasn’t able to chime in earlier, I’m just now reading this thread. Window-Eyes and yes I’m employed. I do also use NVDA, its not my primary screen reader but it is installed on my machine. I’m surprised the NVDA numbers aren’t higher since its free and a no risk install, at least as a secondary screen reader. It sounds like you’re using this as an argument for making sure an application is tested with a particular application is tested and which screen reader it should be tested with? If this is simple testing to see does the application work with a screen reader, I would not recommend JAWS or Window-Eyes. NVDA and even Windows Narrator will give you a good easy feel of was the application designed with accessibility in mind and is it working as they are a lot more raw in how they handle the various accessibility APIs. Both JAWS and Window-Eyes have hacks and work arounds, so sometimes even if something is not implemented to the raw spec it will still read in one or the other, but if you go with Narrator or NVDA and it reads, it will read in Window-Eyes or JAWS. More complex testing such as user base testing, absolutely go with JAWS or Window-Eyes, but NVDA and Narrator are good at getting a good feel for will this work in its raw form as implemented. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> on behalf of Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
Thanks everyone for the really useful feedback.
Here are the results:
Jaws 3 unemployed . 9 employed
NVDA . 1 Unemployed . 2 employed
Window Eyes . 4 employed
Orca . 2 employed
Overall, I think this is really encouraging.
It will assist me in a discussion I'm having at the moment.
It will also help everyone here when you are asking a developer to use a certain application for testing the accessibility of any particular system administration tool. You have an idea of the most popular at the moment.
Thanks again
Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2016 18:42 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important.
JAWS No
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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Window-eyes, yes. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:12 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
NVDA (Windows)/VOiceOver(OS X), no. Bill
On May 25, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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NVDA, voiceover, orca, and no Sent from my iPhone
On May 25, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
NVDA (Windows)/VOiceOver(OS X), no.
Bill
On May 25, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh <d@digitaldarragh.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes.
To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed.
If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com>
Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users.
Thanks
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JAWS, Yes -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
JAWS, Yes -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:12 AM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Quick survey. Results are important. Hello, I would appreciate it if you would reply with the screen reader you primarily use and yes or no depending on if you are currently employed or not. For example: Jaws, Yes. To indicate that Jaws is your primary screen reader and you are currently employed. If you'd prefer to send this to me off list please Email d@digitaldarragh.com<mailto:d@digitaldarragh.com> Your name and answer will not be shared. I simply want to get a picture of the top screen readers actively used in system administration by blind users. Thanks Darragh _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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