Hi, Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them. it's pretty exciting though. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really? How could GW make moey from this? On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope. Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan@gwmicro.commailto:dan@gwmicro.com (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim. -- To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/ To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email moderator@bcab.org.uk. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

Hi, Yes, because any JAWS voices are tied to JAWS and you can't use them with anything else. So you'd have to buy voices for Window-Eyes. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: 14 January 2014 23:11 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, If you have another voice say from Jaws, NVDA, etc. would you need to buy it again in order to use with WE? I would also be interested how people use WE for RDP. Best, Mika -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:08 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them. it's pretty exciting though. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really? How could GW make moey from this? On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope. Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. 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It kind of depends about the voices. Some voices are specific to a particular screenreader or other voice output program for that matter, while others can be purchased that work w/any program. It really depends on the license & the vendor. My advice is to read the terms *very* carefully prior to purchasing any voices. Some say you can't use them commercially, i.e., in a product you're selling, for example. Some are particular to a specific program & won't work w/any other. Caveat emptor & all that good garbage. Any microsoft voices should work, but they're so awful for the most part that no one would want them. I bought a couple NeoSpeech voices awhile back & they seem to work universally, though I can't say I like their pronunciation. Again, read the vendor terms, caveat emptor, yada yada yada. On 1/14/14, Scott Wheat wrote:

Hi Mika,

As for using WE for RDP, so far for me it is working quite well. Basically you install WE on the serer or other windows machine you want to connect to. Depending on your setup and requirements, you will have some configuration to do to get the local copy of WE talking, but it isn't all that complicated. After it is set up, you simply run Remote Desktop on your local computer, connect to the machine you want and WE starts reading everything on the host as if it were local. At work I have RDP set up so I can access 5 different Windows 2008R2 servers. On some of them I haven't got Braille working but it does on others. I am sure it is a setting I missed somewhere and I'll figure it out eventually. We could argue for days as to if using RDP and WE is the best thing to do in a production environment, but so far it is working for me.

Scott

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Hi,

If you have another voice say from Jaws, NVDA, etc. would you need to buy it again in order to use with WE?

I would also be interested how people use WE for RDP.

Best, Mika

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:08 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Hi,

Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them.

it's pretty exciting though.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really?

How could GW make moey from this?

On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope.

Darragh

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Hi all,

Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there.

Andrew.

Jan-14-2014

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille.

To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.

As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people.

In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term.

Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.

Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer.

GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions.

Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan@gwmicro.commailto:dan@gwmicro.com (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim. -- To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/

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Hi Scott, Can you describe any specific configuration needed to get WE running on the client system that you are trying to control? Also lets say you want to start using WE or I suppose any screen reader on a remote pc, lets say an end users machine or a server that you need to manage. Have you found a way to remotely install WE or another screen reader? At this point until its installed you would not have a screen reader on the target system. I'm thinking of eg using msiexec or a script etc to remotely install the AT software on a computer you will want to manage via RDP. Best, Mika -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Scott Wheat Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:35 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi Mika, As for using WE for RDP, so far for me it is working quite well. Basically you install WE on the serer or other windows machine you want to connect to. Depending on your setup and requirements, you will have some configuration to do to get the local copy of WE talking, but it isn't all that complicated. After it is set up, you simply run Remote Desktop on your local computer, connect to the machine you want and WE starts reading everything on the host as if it were local. At work I have RDP set up so I can access 5 different Windows 2008R2 servers. On some of them I haven't got Braille working but it does on others. I am sure it is a setting I missed somewhere and I'll figure it out eventually. We could argue for days as to if using RDP and WE is the best thing to do in a production environment, but so far it is working for me. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Mika Pyyhkala Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, If you have another voice say from Jaws, NVDA, etc. would you need to buy it again in order to use with WE? I would also be interested how people use WE for RDP. Best, Mika -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:08 PM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, Yes it is the full version with the exception that it comes with no Braille hotkey guide, no unlimited tech support and Espeak and Microsoft Platform speech, so you have to buy other voices, such as Eloquence, Dectalk or Vocalizer if you want them. it's pretty exciting though. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 14 January 2014 23:02 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really? How could GW make moey from this? On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope. Darragh -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi all, Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there. Andrew. Jan-14-2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille. To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world. As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people. In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term. Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft. Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer. GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions. 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Let’s also remember that FS paid for that position from the NFB. I know seven figures changed hands from FS to the NFB to perpetuate that position. I’m surprised that MSFT hasn’t made any moves sooner either and continues to be hamstrung by the NFB. I would think Apple including screen readers in all their products now is definitely helping them gain ground on MSFT. On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:37 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

GW is making money because Microsoft is paying them. GW Micro isn't giving Window-eyes away, Microsoft is.

I don't find this surprising at all. Microsoft is being pushed by Apple in schools, colleges, libraries, and anywhere else the 508 regulations apply. Microsoft has to get a screen reader on their tablets to even be considered by the hundreds of school districts that are looking into giving their students tablets instead of textbooks. In fact, I think microsoft is a day late and a dollar short. They should have bought GW Micro five years ago and ported Window-eyes to their mobile platform.

Once again though, it goes back to the decision the NFB made to ask Microsoft not to continue development on narrator. They did that because they were afraid that if Microsoft started giving a screen reader away for free, it'd kill off Freedom Scientific. I argued at the time that that was an incredibly short sighted point of view. With this latest development, I can't imagine any future for jaws. There was no point in Microsoft working with Freedom Scientific, you'd never be able to port jaws to a tablet. It's way too overburdened already.

I think I'll write to FS and suggest that they build a bluetooth braille display and keyboard combo for tablets and put it in a carrying case like a Pac Mate. They could also make a mobile app version of their GPS software, StreetTalk. Then you'd pretty much have a Pac Mate again. I'd buy a bluetooth display/keyboard that I could carry around like a Pac Mate and a StreetTalk IOS app.

Anyway, welcome to the 21st centtury where it's all about 508.

On 01/14/14 17:01, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really?

How could GW make moey from this?

On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope.

Darragh

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Hi all,

Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there.

Andrew.

Jan-14-2014

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille.

To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.

As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people.

In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term.

Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.

Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer.

GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions.

Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan@gwmicro.commailto:dan@gwmicro.com (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim.

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John, your points about education are well put. A friend who teaches 3rd grade is introducing tablets in every subject and every class of her school, and it's all iPads. Garage Band for music class is just one example. At 11:32 AM 1/15/2014, you wrote:

You might never never have thought it but the day ALVA discontinued outSPOKEN was a red letter day for the blind community. It forced Apple to build VoiceOver and the rest, as they say, is history. It really highlights the backwardness of NFB's logic. I don't know if any of this could have ben predicted but if you don't know what's going to happen, why not just favor the free solution? The NFB said, "Let's not let people have a free screen reader because we think we can foresee the future." Well, clearly, they couldn't.

I think you make a great point about Microsoft. You keep hearing about "the demise of the desktop computer". I think most of those stories are exaggerated but they're not entirely crazy. Yet, Microsoft seems very slow to respond. I've seen no hints that Microsoft has shown any interest whatsoever in getting a piece of the electronic textbook market. Schools all over the country are replacing hard copy textbooks with tablet computers. Is Microsoft even in the game? Not only does that game mean the sale of millions of units, it also determines which platform kids are going to favor once they are adults. I don't know how Microsoft can ignore that and hope to survive.

On 01/15/14 08:45, Scott Granados wrote:

...

Let’s also remember that FS paid for that position from the NFB. I know seven figures changed hands from FS to the NFB to perpetuate that position. I’m surprised that MSFT hasn’t made any moves sooner either and continues to be hamstrung by the NFB. I would think Apple including screen readers in all their products now is definitely helping them gain ground on MSFT.

On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:37 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

...

GW is making money because Microsoft is paying them. GW Micro isn't giving Window-eyes away, Microsoft is.

I don't find this surprising at all. Microsoft is being pushed by Apple in schools, colleges, libraries, and anywhere else the 508 regulations apply. Microsoft has to get a screen reader on their tablets to even be considered by the hundreds of school districts that are looking into giving their students tablets instead of textbooks. In fact, I think microsoft is a day late and a dollar short. They should have bought GW Micro five years ago and ported Window-eyes to their mobile platform.

Once again though, it goes back to the decision the NFB made to ask Microsoft not to continue development on narrator. They did that because they were afraid that if Microsoft started giving a screen reader away for free, it'd kill off Freedom Scientific. I argued at the time that that was an incredibly short sighted point of view. With this latest development, I can't imagine any future for jaws. There was no point in Microsoft working with Freedom Scientific, you'd never be able to port jaws to a tablet. It's way too overburdened already.

I think I'll write to FS and suggest that they build a bluetooth braille display and keyboard combo for tablets and put it in a carrying case like a Pac Mate. They could also make a mobile app version of their GPS software, StreetTalk. Then you'd pretty much have a Pac Mate again. I'd buy a bluetooth display/keyboard that I could carry around like a Pac Mate and a StreetTalk IOS app.

Anyway, welcome to the 21st centtury where it's all about 508.

On 01/14/14 17:01, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Wow. There has to be more to this. I know on the site it says fully functional, but is it really?

How could GW make moey from this?

On the other side of things, With this, what could be only called partnership, between GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will work more closely with Window Eyes to make their OS and applications more accessible with it. Unlikely, but I can live in hope.

Darragh

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

Hi all,

Very interesting development, especially as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there.

Andrew.

Jan-14-2014

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) is proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via speech and/or Braille.

To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free. Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.

As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more important as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology in general. Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro. Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive technology to many people.

In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term.

Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously. “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.

Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at www.WindowEyesForOffice.comhttp://www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about this offer.

GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.comhttp://www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive technology industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions.

Contact: Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing dan@gwmicro.commailto:dan@gwmicro.com (260) 489-3671 All the best, Ibrahim.

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Great post Sean. That's right folks. NVDA is 
free, but really, is it? How many of us have donated to the project? :)

At 11:49 PM 1/15/2014, you wrote:
>All.
>
>More info on this change.
>
>As per the FAQs located at http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com/FAQ/
>There are a number of additional benefits offered by GW Micro when purchasing
>the retail version of Window-Eyes:
>•  Free technical support with an unlimited number of incidents
>•  Braille and large print hotkey guides (English only)
>•  Installation CD with comprehensive audio tutorial
>•  Eloquence and Vocalizer speech synthesizers
>•  Ad-free experience for GW Micro’s accessible Skype client, GWConnect
>
>Make your own decision. If you are a NVDA 
>supporter. Then start paying them or they might 
>just go. SaToGo is in trouble now as I can see 
>from this change. Since most people have Office on their pc.
>
>On 16/01/2014, at 8:18 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:
>
> > John, your points about education are well 
> put. A friend who teaches 3rd grade is 
> introducing  tablets in every subject and every 
> class of her school, and it's all iPads. Garage 
> Band for music class is just one example.
> >
> > At 11:32 AM 1/15/2014, you wrote:
> >> You might never  never have thought it but 
> the day ALVA discontinued outSPOKEN was a red 
> letter day for the blind community. It forced 
> Apple to build VoiceOver and the rest, as they 
> say, is history. It really highlights the 
> backwardness of NFB's logic. I don't know if 
> any of this could have ben predicted but if you 
> don't know what's going to happen, why not just 
> favor the free solution?  The NFB said, "Let's 
> not let people have a free screen reader 
> because we think we can foresee the future." Well, clearly, they couldn't.
> >>
> >> I think you make a great point about 
> Microsoft. You keep hearing about "the demise 
> of the desktop computer". I think most of those 
> stories are exaggerated but they're not 
> entirely crazy. Yet, Microsoft seems very slow 
> to respond.  I've seen no hints that Microsoft 
> has shown any interest whatsoever in getting a 
> piece of the electronic textbook market. 
> Schools all over the country are replacing hard 
> copy textbooks with tablet computers. Is 
> Microsoft even in the game? Not only does that 
> game mean the sale of millions of units, it 
> also determines which platform kids are going 
> to favor once they are adults. I don't know how 
> Microsoft can ignore that and hope to survive.
> >>
> >> On 01/15/14 08:45, Scott Granados wrote:
> >>> Let’s also remember that FS paid for that 
> position from the NFB.  I know seven figures 
> changed hands from FS to the NFB to perpetuate 
> that position.  I’m surprised that MSFT hasn’t 
> made any  moves sooner either and continues to 
> be hamstrung by the NFB.  I would think Apple 
> including screen readers in all their products 
> now is definitely helping them gain ground on MSFT.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:37 AM, John G. Heim  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> GW is making money because Microsoft is paying them. GW Micro isn't
> >>>> giving Window-eyes away, Microsoft is.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't find this surprising at all. Microsoft is being pushed by Apple
> >>>> in schools, colleges, libraries, and anywhere else the 508 regulations
> >>>> apply.  Microsoft has to get a screen reader on their tablets to even be
> >>>> considered by the hundreds of school districts that are looking into
> >>>> giving their students tablets instead of textbooks. In fact, I think
> >>>> microsoft is a day late and a dollar short. They should have bought GW
> >>>> Micro five years ago and ported Window-eyes to their mobile platform.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once again though, it goes back to the decision the NFB made to ask
> >>>> Microsoft not to continue development on narrator. They did that because
> >>>> they were afraid that if Microsoft started giving a screen reader away
> >>>> for free, it'd kill off Freedom Scientific. I argued at the time that
> >>>> that was an incredibly short sighted point of view. With this latest
> >>>> development, I can't imagine any future for jaws. There was no point in
> >>>> Microsoft working  with Freedom Scientific, you'd never be able to port
> >>>> jaws to a tablet. It's way too overburdened already.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think I'll write to FS and suggest that they build a bluetooth braille
> >>>>  display and keyboard combo for tablets and put it in a carrying case
> >>>> like a Pac Mate. They could also make a mobile app version of their GPS
> >>>> software, StreetTalk. Then  you'd pretty much have a Pac Mate again. I'd
> >>>> buy a bluetooth display/keyboard that I could carry around like a Pac
> >>>> Mate and a StreetTalk IOS app.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, welcome to the 21st centtury where it's all about 508.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/14/14 17:01, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:
> >>>>> Wow.
> >>>>> There has to be more to this.  I know on 
> the site it says fully functional, but is it really?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How could GW make moey from this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the other side of things,  With this, 
> what could be only called partnership, between 
> GW Micro and Microsoft, maybe Microsoft will 
> work more closely with Window Eyes to make 
> their OS and applications more accessible with 
> it.  Unlikely, but I can live in hope.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Darragh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Blind-sysadmins 
> [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] 
> On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson
> >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2014 22:56
> >>>>> To: Blind sysadmins list
> >>>>> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] 
> Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Very interesting development, especially 
> as WindowEyes has in my view the best RDP support out there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrew.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Jan-14-2014
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) 
> - GW Micro, Inc. 
> (www.gwmicro.com) is 
> proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW 
> Micro and Microsoft Corp. have partnered to 
> make Window-Eyes available to users of 
> Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a 
> screen reader that enables people who are 
> blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to 
> have full access to Windows PCs and makes the 
> computer accessible via speech and/or Braille.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   To better deliver Window-Eyes to the 
> people who need it most, GW Micro and Microsoft 
> have collaborated on this global initiative, 
> available in over 15 languages, to enable 
> anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to 
> also use Window-Eyes for free.  Access to 
> technology is critical to people who are blind 
> or visually impaired in order to have the same 
> opportunity to compete in the workplace. As 
> such, this initiative between GW Micro and 
> Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers 
> for millions of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   As the population ages, technologies 
> like Window-Eyes will become more and more 
> important as the number of people with 
> age-related macular degeneration and other 
> retinal degenerative diseases increases. "This 
> significant change in the way we are doing 
> business reflects the changing perception of 
> accessibility and also technology in 
> general.  Rather than wait for the world to 
> change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading the 
> way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales 
> and Marketing for GW Micro.  Weirich believes 
> this technology can help millions of people 
> gain access to their PC, and that providing it 
> free of charge will open a whole new world of 
> assistive technology to many people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   In light of the rapidly changing face 
> of technology and specifically, the changing 
> face of assistive technology, the combined 
> efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft have the goal 
> of providing accessibility to people who are 
> blind and visually impaired for the long term.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Microsoft continues to take 
> accessibility seriously.  “By partnering with 
> GW Micro in this endeavour we are demonstrating 
> Microsoft’s on-going commitment to provide all 
> of our customers with the technology and tools 
> to help each person be productive in both their 
> work and personal lives.” said Rob Sinclair, 
> Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Eligible customers, using Microsoft 
> Office 2010 or higher, will be able to download 
> a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at 
> www.WindowEyesForOffice.com. 
> The website provides download instructions as 
> well as additional details about this offer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   GW Micro, Inc. 
> (www.gwmicro.com) has 
> been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive 
> technology industry since 1990, and continues 
> to lead with innovative, customer driven solutions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Contact:
> >>>>>   Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing
> >>>>>   dan@gwmicro.com
> >>>>>   (260) 489-3671
> >>>>>   All the best, Ibrahim.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ---
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> >>>>
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& I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not! Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe. On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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It's cheaper in the first year, perhaps. But u just keep on forkin out dough. On 1/15/14, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi,

Why not just subscribe to Office 365, it's cheaper than buying it. You always get the latest version of Office then and if you install the desktop client, the Office version of Window-Eyes will work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: 15 January 2014 03:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

& I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not!

Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe.

On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

...

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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Hi, Incorrect. If you buy office online as an individual, it is more expensive now than a year's subscription and you can't upgrade either, without forking out. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: 15 January 2014 12:32 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. It's cheaper in the first year, perhaps. But u just keep on forkin out dough. On 1/15/14, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi,

Why not just subscribe to Office 365, it's cheaper than buying it. You always get the latest version of Office then and if you install the desktop client, the Office version of Window-Eyes will work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: 15 January 2014 03:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

& I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not!

Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe.

On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

...

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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Hi, I think there is a problem though as Windoweyes didn't think I was licensed with my Office365 online subscription. Not sure about the home user version but probably will be dealt with soon. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 15 January 2014 12:39 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Hi, Incorrect. If you buy office online as an individual, it is more expensive now than a year's subscription and you can't upgrade either, without forking out. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: 15 January 2014 12:32 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. It's cheaper in the first year, perhaps. But u just keep on forkin out dough. On 1/15/14, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi,

Why not just subscribe to Office 365, it's cheaper than buying it. You always get the latest version of Office then and if you install the desktop client, the Office version of Window-Eyes will work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: 15 January 2014 03:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative.

& I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not!

Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe.

On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

...

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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Upgrades to Window-Eyes, provided you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, installed will remain free. For a standalone copy of window-Eyes, upgrades will cost as they always have but notwithstanding, GW Micro has always had the most reasonable pricing for upgrades. I plan to maintain my own license regardless if whether or not I have Office installed. This is obviously for greater flexibility on my part. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:26 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. & I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not! Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe. On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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Yes, works fully On win 7 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:29 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Can someone confirm that this is a full version of Window-eyes which works in apps other than Office apps? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Lee, Amanda Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:23 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Upgrades to Window-Eyes, provided you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, installed will remain free. For a standalone copy of window-Eyes, upgrades will cost as they always have but notwithstanding, GW Micro has always had the most reasonable pricing for upgrades. I plan to maintain my own license regardless if whether or not I have Office installed. This is obviously for greater flexibility on my part. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:26 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. & I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not! Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe. On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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Per the information from the site: Key Features Supported Operating Systems : Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP Supported Windows Servers: 2012, 2008 R2, 2008, 2003 Available in multiple languages Compatible with Microsoft Office 2010 and 2013 * There is an additional licensing fee for customers who require use of the Arabic and/or Hebrew speech synthesizers. ** Without a valid version of Microsoft Office installed, Window-Eyes will run in a restricted, 30-minute demonstration mode. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:44 PM To: thergert@vision-forward.org; 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Yes, works fully On win 7 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Troy Hergert Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:29 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Can someone confirm that this is a full version of Window-eyes which works in apps other than Office apps? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Lee, Amanda Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:23 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. Upgrades to Window-Eyes, provided you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, installed will remain free. For a standalone copy of window-Eyes, upgrades will cost as they always have but notwithstanding, GW Micro has always had the most reasonable pricing for upgrades. I plan to maintain my own license regardless if whether or not I have Office installed. This is obviously for greater flexibility on my part. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:26 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] FW: [BCAB] Microsoft and GW tie up in Window-Eyes office initiative. & I rather suspect upgrades won't be free, either. This might be an absolutely stellar move on GW Micro's part. If the upgrade cost is kept below $200, they might end up getting a whole bunch of folks who downloaded W E to just pay the lower upgrade price & blow off JFW entirely. It'll take a little time, i.e., about a year, but I could see where they might end up getting a very significant infusion of customers for their screenreader & cash into their coffers. I'm actually rather impressed w/their logic. I think I'll get office 2010. I saw a keycard for like $88 at Amazon. I just invested in a new computer & knew I was likely gonna have to get a new/upgraded screenreader & office suite as well. I was already lookin at Office 2010, but I thought the screenreader was gonna be Jaws 15. Guess what? Guess not! Very brilliant tactical move on GW Micro's part, I do believe. On 1/14/14, Chris Smart wrote:

At 06:01 PM 1/14/2014, you wrote:

...

How could GW make money from this?

I'm guessing they get a very small fee for each copy, and the fact that is available to all means many more coppies will be sold.

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