Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host. I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 03 February 2015 12:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop. Hi, Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest? Cheers, Ben. On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Hello, Chiming in on this I'm also seeing the keys not being passed through to the vm when running a screen reader on both host and vm. On my setup the dongle is not an option. If anyone comes up with a fix for this as to which update I'd like to know about it. At first I thought it was my VMware Workstation upgrade. Thanks. Dave. On 2/3/15, Bram Duvigneau wrote:

Hi,

Keys not passing through is due to a recent windows update, I don't know which. I see the same with NVDA and VMware and things like NVDA over RDP. I think there is some NVDA ticket that discusses this.

Shutting down the screenreader on the host seems to be the only workaround for now. If someone can indicate which update caused this I would be glad trying to uninstall that specific update.

Bram On 2/3/2015 1:49 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host.

I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me.

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Hi,

Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest?

Cheers, Ben.

On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Try this: Move the Jaws folder into a separate folder on your C drive. Then run Jaws again. You won't have access to any applications that require administrative privlidges but you will have access to VMware workstation. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 04 February 2015 16:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop. Hello, Chiming in on this I'm also seeing the keys not being passed through to the vm when running a screen reader on both host and vm. On my setup the dongle is not an option. If anyone comes up with a fix for this as to which update I'd like to know about it. At first I thought it was my VMware Workstation upgrade. Thanks. Dave. On 2/3/15, Bram Duvigneau wrote:

Hi,

Keys not passing through is due to a recent windows update, I don't know which. I see the same with NVDA and VMware and things like NVDA over RDP. I think there is some NVDA ticket that discusses this.

Shutting down the screenreader on the host seems to be the only workaround for now. If someone can indicate which update caused this I would be glad trying to uninstall that specific update.

Bram On 2/3/2015 1:49 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host.

I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 03 February 2015 12:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop.

Hi,

Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest?

Cheers, Ben.

On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Hello, Hmmm, i'll keep this in mind, but for my setup I think I'd prefer another solution. Thanks. Dave. On 2/4/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Try this: Move the Jaws folder into a separate folder on your C drive. Then run Jaws again.

You won't have access to any applications that require administrative privlidges but you will have access to VMware workstation.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 04 February 2015 16:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop.

Hello,

Chiming in on this I'm also seeing the keys not being passed through to the vm when running a screen reader on both host and vm. On my setup the dongle is not an option. If anyone comes up with a fix for this as to which update I'd like to know about it. At first I thought it was my VMware Workstation upgrade.

Thanks. Dave.

On 2/3/15, Bram Duvigneau wrote:

...

Hi,

Keys not passing through is due to a recent windows update, I don't know which. I see the same with NVDA and VMware and things like NVDA over RDP. I think there is some NVDA ticket that discusses this.

Shutting down the screenreader on the host seems to be the only workaround for now. If someone can indicate which update caused this I would be glad trying to uninstall that specific update.

Bram On 2/3/2015 1:49 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host.

I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 03 February 2015 12:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop.

Hi,

Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest?

Cheers, Ben.

On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Hello, I've found something, link below, that might give someone a clue. I've removed the indicated update but no go. For me it isn't a matter of which screen reader, the host system has jaws, the vm's have jaws demos or NVDA or system access on them. This also occurs with Linux vm's, I was hoping it was limited to windows guests but apparently not. Basically, the vm never takes total control, pressing numpad keys interacts with the host screen reader, other keys do get passed to the vm, but they're sluggish. I've read about an enhanced keyboard driver but on my win7 64 bit host it wouldn't install. I'm using VMware workstation9 if that matters. I don't know if ten has these issues, I'm suspecting it does. Any more information appreciated. Here's the link: http://community.nvda-project.org/ticket/4334 Thanks. Dave. On 2/4/15, David Mehler wrote:

Hello,

Hmmm, i'll keep this in mind, but for my setup I think I'd prefer another solution.

Thanks. Dave.

On 2/4/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Try this: Move the Jaws folder into a separate folder on your C drive. Then run Jaws again.

You won't have access to any applications that require administrative privlidges but you will have access to VMware workstation.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: 04 February 2015 16:07 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop.

Hello,

Chiming in on this I'm also seeing the keys not being passed through to the vm when running a screen reader on both host and vm. On my setup the dongle is not an option. If anyone comes up with a fix for this as to which update I'd like to know about it. At first I thought it was my VMware Workstation upgrade.

Thanks. Dave.

On 2/3/15, Bram Duvigneau wrote:

...

Hi,

Keys not passing through is due to a recent windows update, I don't know which. I see the same with NVDA and VMware and things like NVDA over RDP. I think there is some NVDA ticket that discusses this.

Shutting down the screenreader on the host seems to be the only workaround for now. If someone can indicate which update caused this I would be glad trying to uninstall that specific update.

Bram On 2/3/2015 1:49 PM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host.

I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 03 February 2015 12:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop.

Hi,

Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest?

Cheers, Ben.

On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

...

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Yes. I'm pressing control G. All jaws keys are passed through to the host. I know I could unload Jaws on the host every time I want to use VMware but that's not practical for me. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 03 February 2015 12:49 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop. Hi, Can't comment on Workstation with Jaws but it works well with SuperNova & all keys get sent to the guest correctly. Stupid question but are you remembering to press control + g before trying to do anything in the guest? Cheers, Ben. On 2/3/15, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines?

I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well.

Any suggestions?

I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest.

I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws.

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Thanks Andrew, Unfortunately, RDP isn't really an option for me either as I spend my day going from one machine to another so I need to be able to RDP from this VM. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson Sent: 03 February 2015 13:22 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop. Hi, I use Hyper-V and get the network up then RDP into the VM. I had to use a dongle because each time a machine started or stopped it reset the activation on the machine. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Darragh Ó Héiligh Sent: 03 February 2015 12:28 To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Running VM's on your desktop. I'm asking the question again so sorry for the repetition. What software are you using on your desktop to run vitual machines? I need to run VM's on Windows 8.1 X64. These VM's will primarily run Windows 7 but it's likely I'll need to spin up a few Linux VM's as well. Any suggestions? I was usingVMware workstation for a good while but the jaws keys weren't passing through to the guest. I tried Hyper-V but I had no luck with that at all as exclusive mode wouldn't work properly. Again with Jaws. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins