Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system
As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?
Hi, I have been using McAfee Live Safe. It seems to handle virus problems pretty well. I currently use it on Windows 7 and Windows 10 workstations. Greg B. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:09 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I am using Sophos Home for personal machine, and AVG Antivirus for business machines. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:09 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I am using Sophos Home for personal machine, and AVG Antivirus for business machines. Anatoliy -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:09 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
I’ve found that the best defense against malware is a combination of common sense, Windows Defender, and occasional scans with Malwarebytes <http://malwarebytes.org>. Constantly running “antivirus” packages are typically both unnecessarily intrusive and resource-heavy. Bill
On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make.
Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?
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I totally agree. This is exactly what I do. I have never got a virus nor have I gotten malware. The 2 rules to remember is to absolutely be careful what links you follow and ***NEVER*** run anything you are not absolutely sure of. Just FYI if your friend/relative/reputible company sends it to you, don't trust it either until you verify it. On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Bill Dengler wrote:
I’ve found that the best defense against malware is a combination of common sense, Windows Defender, and occasional scans with Malwarebytes <http://malwarebytes.org>. Constantly running “antivirus” packages are typically both unnecessarily intrusive and resource-heavy.
Bill
On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make.
Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?
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Good advice, and also keep in mind that ad networks used by mainstream websites are also used to deliver malware. For example see this article: Big-name sites hit by rash of malicious ads spreading crypto ransomware [Updated] | Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/security/2016/03/big-name-sites-hit-by-rash-of-malic... I would assume that your system will eventually be compromised, keep multiple backups in a way that the system can not alter the backups after creation, and keep any sensitive information in an encrypted container that is only accessed when it is being used. Chris On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:51:42AM -0500, Kelly Prescott wrote:
I totally agree. This is exactly what I do. I have never got a virus nor have I gotten malware. The 2 rules to remember is to absolutely be careful what links you follow and ***NEVER*** run anything you are not absolutely sure of. Just FYI if your friend/relative/reputible company sends it to you, don't trust it either until you verify it.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Bill Dengler wrote:
I???ve found that the best defense against malware is a combination of common sense, Windows Defender, and occasional scans with Malwarebytes <http://malwarebytes.org>. Constantly running ???antivirus??? packages are typically both unnecessarily intrusive and resource-heavy.
Bill
On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make.
Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?
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Kelly Prescott <kprescott@coolip.net> wrote:
Just FYI if your friend/relative/reputible company sends it to you, don't trust it either until you verify it.
That's good advice. When I receive a message that I'm not sure of, I always check the full e-mail headers - and usually find that the message didn't actually come from the purported sender.
Further to this topic, some additional research revealed the following article, which has attracted publicity. http://robert.ocallahan.org/2017/01/disable-your-antivirus-software-except.h... -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Prescott Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:52 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system I totally agree. This is exactly what I do. I have never got a virus nor have I gotten malware. The 2 rules to remember is to absolutely be careful what links you follow and ***NEVER*** run anything you are not absolutely sure of. Just FYI if your friend/relative/reputible company sends it to you, don't trust it either until you verify it. On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Bill Dengler wrote:
I’ve found that the best defense against malware is a combination of common sense, Windows Defender, and occasional scans with Malwarebytes <http://malwarebytes.org>. Constantly running “antivirus” packages are typically both unnecessarily intrusive and resource-heavy.
Bill
On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Jason White via Blind-sysadmins <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> wrote:
As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make.
Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment?
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Hi, For the record I have never installed any AV or spyware control software on Windows 10 that is in a non-corporate environment. Windows Defender has caught stuff with my parents, but I have never had anything myself running with the same constraints you are running with. I don't intend to change this anytime soon. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins Sent: 28 June 2017 23:09 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Hi, For the record I have never installed any AV or spyware control software on Windows 10 that is in a non-corporate environment. Windows Defender has caught stuff with my parents, but I have never had anything myself running with the same constraints you are running with. I don't intend to change this anytime soon. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jason White via Blind-sysadmins Sent: 28 June 2017 23:09 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Cc: Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Protection against malware on a new Windows 10 system As noted previously on this list, I recently purchased a new laptop, which is intended to run both Linux and Windows. On the Windows side, I need to guard against viruses and other forms of malware. Whatever solution I put in place has to be accessible with a screen reader. I have some system administration experience (with my own machines and, occasionally, helping others - almost entirely under Linux), so I'll take the obvious precautions - keeping the system and applications up to date, only installing software from reputable sources, etc. In other words, I won't make the obvious mistakes that people who don't know any better tend to make. Currently, Windows Defender is running by default. In the reviews I've read, it has been criticized for its virus detection accuracy, but those reviews aren't necessarily recent. What are others doing and recommending at the moment? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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