hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
Hi, Understanding the content shouldn't be an issue or if it is, it isn't / shouldn't really be related to blindness. The one sticking point you may encounter is if the IDE you are asked to use is inaccessible, but there are many alternatives. However, at the sort of level you'll most likely be coding at, you should be fine using something like notepad / notepad++ / vi to write your code then just compiling via gcc on the command line. I would argue that in the begining this will make you a better coder as opposed to restricting your productivity. There are lists that are better suited towards this sort of topic; afaik there is a blind programmers list but I'm not a member so it's probably worth a Google sorry. Good luck, Ben. On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hi, Understanding the content shouldn't be an issue or if it is, it isn't / shouldn't really be related to blindness. The one sticking point you may encounter is if the IDE you are asked to use is inaccessible, but there are many alternatives. However, at the sort of level you'll most likely be coding at, you should be fine using something like notepad / notepad++ / vi to write your code then just compiling via gcc on the command line. I would argue that in the begining this will make you a better coder as opposed to restricting your productivity. There are lists that are better suited towards this sort of topic; afaik there is a blind programmers list but I'm not a member so it's probably worth a Google sorry. Good luck, Ben. On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hello Ibrahem I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type. No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help. Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hi, It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway. Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise. Cheers, Ben. On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hi, It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway. Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise. Cheers, Ben. On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws? On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hello, As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items. As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different. Regards, Chamandeep Singh On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hello, As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items. As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different. Regards, Chamandeep Singh On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hi, It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham. Not the most helpful of posts I know. Cheers, Ben. On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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i'd like to know which programme is working with jaws and doing the same functions as codeBlocks with regards On 8/12/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham.
Not the most helpful of posts I know.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote: > hello > my name is ibrahem mahsoub > i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students > would any one share good information to understand the lectures. > any scripts needed and things > thank you and sorry for my english at all > -- > ibrahem mahsoub > blind computerest > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >
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you can use visual studio. I think that is pretty well supported by Jaws and does c++. also, i think you can get a version of eclipse for c++, but i'm not sure - you will need to check up on that. On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
i'd like to know which programme is working with jaws and doing the same functions as codeBlocks with regards
On 8/12/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham.
Not the most helpful of posts I know.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote: > Hello Ibrahem > > I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being > one > of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or > facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour > early during the first day so I can install and test my text to > speech > software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or > electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic > versions, > which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD > I > have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This > allows > me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also > allows > me > to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a > back > up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a > USB > stick of some type. > > No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is > because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the > instructors > and on site technical support are interested and want to know how > things > work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student > they > might need to help. > > Vic > On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote: >> hello >> my name is ibrahem mahsoub >> i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students >> would any one share good information to understand the lectures. >> any scripts needed and things >> thank you and sorry for my english at all >> -- >> ibrahem mahsoub >> blind computerest >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >
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you can use visual studio. I think that is pretty well supported by Jaws and does c++. also, i think you can get a version of eclipse for c++, but i'm not sure - you will need to check up on that. On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
i'd like to know which programme is working with jaws and doing the same functions as codeBlocks with regards
On 8/12/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham.
Not the most helpful of posts I know.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote: > Hello Ibrahem > > I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being > one > of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or > facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour > early during the first day so I can install and test my text to > speech > software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or > electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic > versions, > which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD > I > have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This > allows > me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also > allows > me > to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a > back > up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a > USB > stick of some type. > > No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is > because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the > instructors > and on site technical support are interested and want to know how > things > work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student > they > might need to help. > > Vic > On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote: >> hello >> my name is ibrahem mahsoub >> i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students >> would any one share good information to understand the lectures. >> any scripts needed and things >> thank you and sorry for my english at all >> -- >> ibrahem mahsoub >> blind computerest >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blind-sysadmins mailing list >> Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org >> http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >> > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >
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i'd like to know which programme is working with jaws and doing the same functions as codeBlocks with regards On 8/12/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham.
Not the most helpful of posts I know.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote: > hello > my name is ibrahem mahsoub > i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students > would any one share good information to understand the lectures. > any scripts needed and things > thank you and sorry for my english at all > -- > ibrahem mahsoub > blind computerest > > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list > Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins >
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Hi, It seems pretty accessible using Supernova. Perhaps ask on a blind programmers list? Assuming that you don't find any scripts and that you don't want to use Supernova, I think the best approach will be to use an alternative editer. Depending on how long you have before the start of the course, I'd spend a day or so trying to get codeBlocks to work and then assuming you're still having problems, email your lecturer so that they are kept in the loop. You have some good advice from Cham. Not the most helpful of posts I know. Cheers, Ben. On 8/12/13, Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hello,
As a Software Engineering Student about to enter my final year, i totally agree with Ben in that, it is essential to communicate with your course instructors in advance even if you don't feel there is something else you need. I can assure you sometimes we as students can overlook some items.
As for code blocks, i remember briefly using it in my second year, and didn't find it friendly. At the end of the day, it is the language concepts you will be learning. I would suggest you looking into another ide that you can use and communicate this with your instructor. I agree that this will put you in a slightly different environment than the rest, but i don't think things will be too different.
Regards, Chamandeep Singh
On 8/12/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws?
On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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hello again after i finesh talking to the insterctor i understand that they will worke with a programme called CodeBlocks i downloaded the programme and set it up as normal and there is no comunication with jaws any 1 have a script to make CodeBlocks working with jaws? On 8/9/13, Ben Mustill-Rose <ben@benmr.com> wrote:
Hi,
It's probably worth emailing your lecturer ahead of time and asking what IDE he / she is planning to use so that you can get to grips with it in advance; this brings the advantage of potentially putting you ahead of your peers and also allows you to identify any accessibility problems with the software. As a recent graduate I find that emailing ahead as a blind student is best practice even if you don't think there will be any problems; you have to remember that for most of the people you will encounter on your course it will be the first time they've ever interacted with a blind person and its probable that some people won't even know that we can use computers, let alone program. If you go in with a friendly attitude, you'll be surprised at how willing people are to help; that's been my experience anyway.
Good luck & there are plenty of grads that have been in your situation before that will be able to advise.
Cheers, Ben.
On 8/9/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping
On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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the problem which i'm thinking to face is the accessible tools or programmes we will use and its not the 1st time to study programming i did vb.net2005 and 2008 but as you all know that visualstudio.net is working nice with jaws thank you all for your helping On 8/7/13, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca <vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca> wrote:
Hello Ibrahem
I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type.
No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help.
Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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Hello Ibrahem I have taken several courses where everyone was sighted. C++ being one of them. The only thing I do is I let either the instructor or facility manager know that I will need to come in about half an hour early during the first day so I can install and test my text to speech software. I also ask if the material will be handed out in print or electronic formats. If print, I then ask for the electronic versions, which always seem to exist. If they are already being issued on a CD I have received them a couple of days before the class starts. This allows me to make sure I have a good idea on their format and it also allows me to put everything on to a couple of USB modules. I like to have a back up. so my text to speech software and the class material end up on a USB stick of some type. No course provider has ever turned down my requests. I believe it is because I have solutions and I do the work myself. Often the instructors and on site technical support are interested and want to know how things work. They like to be up to speed in case they ever have a student they might need to help. Vic On 8/6/13, Ibrahim Mahsoub <hemasoft2009@gmail.com> wrote:
hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest
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ibrahem, I took a C++ class about 2 years ago as part of my masters program. The problems facing me were mostly with the lectures. My instructor wrote a lot on the board and I was constantly asking for explanations of what was written or drawn on the board. I got around this problem by using a note taker. My note taker was someone in the class who did not mind sharing his notes with me. Also through one of the student services offices at my university, I was able to get him paid for his trouble, not much but being a student he was happy with the arrangement. As far as code writing , I used Textpad and MS Visual Studio but I did also try another programming environment called Blood Shed. In the programming environment, Jaws had problems with using the debugging facility because the debugger changed line colors to show which line it was on when it was stepping through the code. I got around this by putting a lot of print statements in my coding for debugging. It was slow but it worked. Jaws can work with the debugger program but I did not want to spend the time developing the script. I tried talking with Freedom Scientific but they were not very much help. As an administrator, I think it is good to have an understanding of programming because administrators should also be able to use Power Shell or other scripting to complete administrative tasks. There has been a time or two when my understanding of programming has saved time and effort for my old domain administrators team. If you want to discuss this some more please contact me off list at gbobo@woh.rr.com and I will give you what information I can. Greg B. Email: gbobo@woh.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Mahsoub Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:43 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] c++ hello my name is ibrahem mahsoub i will take my place in a c++ course with sighted students would any one share good information to understand the lectures. any scripts needed and things thank you and sorry for my english at all -- ibrahem mahsoub blind computerest _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org http://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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