Hi, Are those all the companys computers? Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private users? I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. All computers are in the same network. So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a server. I guess i posted that config once on this list. In any case you always need to install or to roll out a screenreader on all computers you want to control. Jaws also has such a feature. But i have no info about that. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers. If something works. I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen reader on the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the employer to hire me for the job. So, if something works please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech Hi, Which screen reader are you using? Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another machine with out speech playing on the end users machine? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

This looks interesting. How do you have it set up to work with machines over the network? I don't need the remote users to hear speech. It looks like the option that does not give speech on the remote side is only designed to work on 1 set computer. Do you know if that can be expanded to work on several computers? Thank you, Mike On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:56 AM Stuart Young wrote:

Hi, there is remote incident manager from serotek or remote access manager from the same company this can be found at the following link.

http://www.serotek.com/rimandram Kind regards, Stuart.

Sent from my iPhone

...

On 8 Oct 2020, at 07:53, Eigeldinger Simon < simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> wrote:

Hi,

Are those all the companys computers? Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private users?

I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. All computers are in the same network. So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a server. I guess i posted that config once on this list.

In any case you always need to install or to roll out a screenreader on all computers you want to control.

Jaws also has such a feature. But i have no info about that.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers. If something works. I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen reader on the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the employer to hire me for the job. So, if something works please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

Hi,

Which screen reader are you using?

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech

Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another machine with out speech playing on the end users machine? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Hi: I tried to implement RIM at a previous job, and despite help from Serotek we couldn't get it to work. This was quite a few years ago so I'd definitely not rule the solution out, but back when I looked at it, it worked well on machines on the same LAN as myself, but when trying to work with other machines across the companies WAN, I got very frequent connection drops. We never figured out just what was going on and in the end needed to move onto a different product. RIM in principle looked like a good product for what I was needing, but at the time we just couldn't make it work reliably. As I said that was a while ago so I'm sure its gone through a few updates since, and if I were in your shoes I'd give it a second look but really test it out under real world circumstances. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:40 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech O my god, very excited! Stuart, could you provide more information about the application and share your experiences please? 2020-10-08 15:33 GMT+03:00, Mike Fulton :

This looks interesting. How do you have it set up to work with machines over the network? I don't need the remote users to hear speech. It looks like the option that does not give speech on the remote side is only designed to work on 1 set computer. Do you know if that can be expanded to work on several computers?

Thank you, Mike

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:56 AM Stuart Young wrote:

...

Hi, there is remote incident manager from serotek or remote access manager from the same company this can be found at the following link.

http://www.serotek.com/rimandram Kind regards, Stuart.

Sent from my iPhone

...

On 8 Oct 2020, at 07:53, Eigeldinger Simon < simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> wrote:

Hi,

Are those all the companys computers? Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private users?

I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. All computers are in the same network. So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a server. I guess i posted that config once on this list.

In any case you always need to install or to roll out a screenreader on all computers you want to control.

Jaws also has such a feature. But i have no info about that.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers. If something works. I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen reader on the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the employer to hire me for the job. So, if something works please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

Hi,

Which screen reader are you using?

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech

Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another machine with out speech playing on the end users machine? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Hi, You could try. Narrator is for me just a screenreader to use when no screenreader can't be installed or i wouldn't be allowed to install NVDA. Otherwise i would install NVDA because it performs much better. Maybe you might try both solutions at home and over the net with a friend. So you can see if that would work out for you. NVDA Remote is a plugin for NVDA so you need to install that separately. Installing NVDA as a portable copy would work but i have figured out that it doesn't perform well in some administrative tools like mmc or some settings. I sometimes use then a mix of narrator and NVDA to get through. Fortunately my people are all in the same network as we so that works pretty well. And i prepared the NVDA copy on that machine so that no speech is coming out on their end. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Oktober 2020 02:57 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech what about using narrator on the remote system or pasting nvda on the remote system and just running it as a one time instance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 7:34 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

Hi: I tried to implement RIM at a previous job, and despite help from Serotek we couldn't get it to work. This was quite a few years ago so I'd definitely not rule the solution out, but back when I looked at it, it worked well on machines on the same LAN as myself, but when trying to work with other machines across the companies WAN, I got very frequent connection drops. We never figured out just what was going on and in the end needed to move onto a different product. RIM in principle looked like a good product for what I was needing, but at the time we just couldn't make it work reliably. As I said that was a while ago so I'm sure its gone through a few updates since, and if I were in your shoes I'd give it a second look but really test it out under real world circumstances. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:40 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

O my god, very excited! Stuart, could you provide more information about the application and share your experiences please?

2020-10-08 15:33 GMT+03:00, Mike Fulton :

...

This looks interesting. How do you have it set up to work with machines over the network? I don't need the remote users to hear speech. It looks like the option that does not give speech on the remote side is only designed to work on 1 set computer. Do you know if that can be expanded to work on several computers?

Thank you, Mike

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:56 AM Stuart Young wrote:

...

Hi, there is remote incident manager from serotek or remote access manager from the same company this can be found at the following link.

http://www.serotek.com/rimandram Kind regards, Stuart.

Sent from my iPhone

...

On 8 Oct 2020, at 07:53, Eigeldinger Simon < simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> wrote:

Hi,

Are those all the companys computers? Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private users?

I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. All computers are in the same network. So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a server. I guess i posted that config once on this list.

In any case you always need to install or to roll out a screenreader on all computers you want to control.

Jaws also has such a feature. But i have no info about that.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers. If something works. I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen reader on the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the employer to hire me for the job. So, if something works please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

Hi,

Which screen reader are you using?

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech

Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another machine with out speech playing on the end users machine? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Hi, That shouldn't be a problem. I also use sometimes 2 screenreaders at once. Greetings, Simon Am 09.10.2020 um 15:28 schrieb Ibraam Wahib:

hello

could I use team viewer with jaws in my machine and connect remotely to another computer for sighted person via narrator? or should be the same screen-reader?  thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 7:13 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

...

Hi,

You could try. Narrator is for me just a screenreader to use when no screenreader can't be installed or i wouldn't be allowed to install NVDA. Otherwise i would install NVDA because it performs much better. Maybe you might try both solutions at home and over the net with a friend. So you can see if that would work out for you. NVDA Remote is a plugin for NVDA so you need to install that separately. Installing NVDA as a portable copy would work but i have figured out that it doesn't perform well in some administrative tools like mmc or some settings. I sometimes use then a mix of narrator and NVDA to get through.

Fortunately my people are all in the same network as we so that works pretty well. And i prepared the NVDA copy on that machine so that no speech is coming out on their end.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Oktober 2020 02:57 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

what about using narrator on the remote system or pasting nvda on the remote system and just running it as a one time instance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 7:34 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

...

Hi: I tried to implement RIM at a previous job, and despite help from Serotek we couldn't get it to work.  This was quite a few years ago so I'd definitely not rule the solution out, but back when I looked at it, it worked well on machines on the same LAN as myself, but when trying to work with other machines across the companies WAN, I got very frequent connection drops.  We never figured out just what was going on and in the end needed to move onto a different product.  RIM in principle looked like a good product for what I was needing, but at the time we just couldn't make it work reliably.  As I said that was a while ago so I'm sure its gone through a few updates since, and if I were in your shoes I'd give it a second look but really test it out under real world circumstances. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:40 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

O my god, very excited! Stuart, could you provide more information about the application and share your experiences please?

2020-10-08 15:33 GMT+03:00, Mike Fulton :

...

This looks interesting. How do you have it set up to work with machines over the network? I don't need the remote users to hear speech. It looks like the option that does not give speech on the remote side is only designed to work on 1 set computer. Do you know if that can be expanded to work on several computers?

Thank you, Mike

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:56 AM Stuart Young wrote:

...

Hi, there is remote incident manager from serotek or remote access manager from the same company this can be found at the following link.

http://www.serotek.com/rimandram Kind regards, Stuart.

Sent from my iPhone

...

On 8 Oct 2020, at 07:53, Eigeldinger Simon < simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> wrote:

Hi,

Are those all the companys computers? Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private users?

I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. All computers are in the same network. So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a server. I guess i posted that config once on this list.

In any case you always need to install or to roll out a screenreader on all computers you want to control.

Jaws also has such a feature. But i have no info about that.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers.  If something works. I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen reader on the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the employer to hire me for the job.  So, if something works please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

Hi,

Which screen reader are you using?

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech

Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another machine with out speech playing on the end users machine? _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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Hi, no narrator doesn't have a remote feature. You just can hear the pretty laggy sounds over teamviewer. you can optimize that sound a little bit in the settings under remote control and then set the quality to own settings. then edit the own settings and put the slider to 0 and disable gui animations, application compatibility. Greetings, Simon Am 09.10.2020 um 21:03 schrieb Ibraam Wahib:

sorry I mean I'm using jaws with team viewer, could connect to sighted computer and opened narrator for him via remote session? or I should use the same screen-reader on both computers another point, is anyway to open narrator as silent speech to not let end user hear voice while support ..

 thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Eigeldinger" To: Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 5:29 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

...

Hi,

That shouldn't be a problem. I also use sometimes 2 screenreaders at once.

Greetings, Simon

Am 09.10.2020 um 15:28 schrieb Ibraam Wahib:

...

hello

could I use team viewer with jaws in my machine and connect remotely to another computer for sighted person via narrator? or should be the same screen-reader?  thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eigeldinger Simon" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 7:13 AM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

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Hi,

You could try. Narrator is for me just a screenreader to use when no screenreader can't be installed or i wouldn't be allowed to install NVDA. Otherwise i would install NVDA because it performs much better. Maybe you might try both solutions at home and over the net with a friend. So you can see if that would work out for you. NVDA Remote is a plugin for NVDA so you need to install that separately. Installing NVDA as a portable copy would work but i have figured out that it doesn't perform well in some administrative tools like mmc or some settings. I sometimes use then a mix of narrator and NVDA to get through.

Fortunately my people are all in the same network as we so that works pretty well. And i prepared the NVDA copy on that machine so that no speech is coming out on their end.

Greetings, Simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1

Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Isaac Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Oktober 2020 02:57 An: Mailing list for blind system administrators Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

what about using narrator on the remote system or pasting nvda on the remote system and just running it as a one time instance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 7:34 PM Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

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Hi: I tried to implement RIM at a previous job, and despite help from Serotek we couldn't get it to work. This was quite a few years ago so I'd definitely not rule the solution out, but back when I looked at it, it worked well on machines on the same LAN as myself, but when trying to work with other machines across the companies WAN, I got very frequent connection drops. We never figured out just what was going on and in the end needed to move onto a different product. RIM in principle looked like a good product for what I was needing, but at the time we just couldn't make it work reliably. As I said that was a while ago so I'm sure its gone through a few updates since, and if I were in your shoes I'd give it a second look but really test it out under real world circumstances. Ryan

-----Original Message----- From: Can Kırca Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:40 AM To: Mailing list for blind system administrators Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech

O my god, very excited! Stuart, could you provide more information about the application and share your experiences please?

2020-10-08 15:33 GMT+03:00, Mike Fulton :

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This looks interesting. How do you have it set up to work with machines over the network? I don't need the remote users to hear speech. It looks like the option that does not give speech on the remote side is only designed to work on 1 set computer. Do you know if that can be expanded to work on several computers?

Thank you, Mike

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:56 AM Stuart Young wrote:

> Hi, there is remote incident manager from serotek or remote access > manager from the same company this can be found at the following > link. > > http://www.serotek.com/rimandram > Kind regards, Stuart. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 8 Oct 2020, at 07:53, Eigeldinger Simon < > simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Are those all the companys computers? > > Or are you working in a kind of support company that helps private > > users? > > > > I use NVDA over here with NVDA Remote. > > All computers are in the same network. > > So i opened a nvda remote instance on my pc that it acts as a > server. > > I guess i posted that config once on this list. > > > > In any case you always need to install or to roll out a > > screenreader on > all computers you want to control. > > > > Jaws also has such a feature. > > But i have no info about that. > > > > Greetings, > > Simon > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > > > Simon Eigeldinger > > Informatik > > Nebengebäude 1, OG1 > > > > Stadt Hohenems > > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 > > 6845 Hohenems > > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | > www.hohenems.at > > > > Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind > > vertraulich und > nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Isaac > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 07:34 > > An: Mailing list for blind system administrators < > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > > Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech > > > > I can use them all meaning all of the screen readers. If something > works. > > I will be switching remote clients often and to install a screen > > reader > on > > the remote system every time might be a discouragement for the > > employer > to > > hire me for the job. So, if something works please let me know. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eigeldinger Simon" > > To: "Mailing list for blind system administrators" > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:21 AM > > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: remote system admin job with speech > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Which screen reader are you using? > > > > Greetings, > > Simon > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > > > Simon Eigeldinger > > Informatik > > Nebengebäude 1, OG1 > > > > Stadt Hohenems > > Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 > > 6845 Hohenems > > T: +43 5576 7101-1143 | E: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at | > www.hohenems.at > > > > Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind > > vertraulich und > nur > > für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Isaac > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2020 05:10 > > An: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > Betreff: [Blind-sysadmins] remote system admin job with speech > > > > Hi, is there a way to access a remote way to access another > machine > > with > out > > speech playing on the end users machine? > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org

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