It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment. Cheers, Ben. On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.mp3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment. Cheers, Ben. On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Audio quality isn't overly important for TTS though especially with something like eSpeak; latency is the real reason why TeamViewer isn't up to the mark & why something like this is needed. Having said that I do a couple malware removals a month with TeamViewer & NVDA and whilst it's not enjoyable (is removing malware ever enjoyable?) it's usable in a pinch. When / if this gets released I'll switch; propper professionals may feel differently though - I don't know. On 12/17/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Hello Katherine Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby. Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment. Cheers, Ben. On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Where are you going with this? What does a hardware synth have to do with a remote add on for NVDA that will allow remote access to almost any PC? Am I missing something? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 15:39 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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Where are you going with this? What does a hardware synth have to do with a remote add on for NVDA that will allow remote access to almost any PC? Am I missing something? -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: 18 December 2014 15:39 To: 'Blind sysadmins list' Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access But why would anyone want a $695 speech synthesizer -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 AM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access The Blazie products also worked as speech synthesizers that could be connected to a serial port and accessed by text to speech software. Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046 -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: December-17-14 5:57 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access but braille an speak are hardware? On 2014-12-17 15:59, vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca wrote:

Hello Katherine

Some of us curmudgeons can put up with a lot of bad synthesized speech. When one is brought up on TriFormations FSST dumb terminals, Type n' Talk, Blazie Braille n' Speak etc. a lot of these software synthesizers aren't too shabby.

Also, you made a comment regarding the look of a UI. When someone has useable vision, the look of an application is as important to them as the quality of synthetic speech is to some of us.

Vic Pereira Shared Services Canada/Services partagés Canada 9-111 Lombard Avenue Winnipeg MB R3B 0T4 Vic.pereira@ssc-spc.gc.ca 204-781-5046

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: December-16-14 6:58 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

I've never tried Teamviewer and NVDA, but I've heard the audio from my friend's side when he uses Teamviewer to access my computer, and let me tell you, it sounds like crap.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:48 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

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Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote. m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

Cheers, Ben.

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yes, I am very excited about this! this will be a serious game changer. have already committed to putting money in when the compaign starts as this has the potential to revolutionize my work life. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 17/12/2014 3:59 AM, Darragh Ó Héiligh wrote:

Ben and Catherine,

I have been involved in a very small way with this.

Here are a few points.

1. It's not that there are no plans to support video, it's that this is meant to work in combination with Teamviewer, remote desktop, VNC, PC anywhere, PC over IP or any other network based remote access system you need to use. Imagine this. Your employer decides tomorrow to stop using Teamviewer and insteads moves to go to meeting or even Bomgar. You don't need to worry about it. NVDA compressed without all the language files and synthesizers is 14MB. You connect to the remote PC, you download your archive and you startworking. It doesn't need to be installed and by selecting no synthesizer you have no speech on the remote side.

2. The UI isn't important at all. The server runs where ever you want. I have it running on one of my work servers. I could have had it running on my laptop but because I'm in different offices, I didn't want to have to open firewall ports everywhere. On the remote side, when all goes well, the user never sees a UI at all. On the local side, you see a simple dialogue asking you where you want to connect and what key to use.

3. Your sighted colleagues will never need to see this so the UI isn't important to them either.

4. a virtual channel over RDP isn't necessary once the server your connecting to has access to either your computer or the relay server over the designated port. This is completely protocol independent. Also, because it's only sending synthesizer strings it's lightening fast. Even when connecting from Ireland to the US or Canada.

This is absolutely revolutionary. I can't wait until they raise the money required to finish this because already it's a game changer for me.

Here's what I did to get this working. 1. Configured a pen drive version of NVDA. 2. Removed the synthesizer and language files excluding the English language. 3. Disabled speech. 4. Disabled the start up sound. 5. Disabled the check for updates. 6. Removed the uninstall executable. 7. Installed the NVDA add on. 8. Configured the add on to connect to my relay server when NVDA starts. 9. Zipped up the NVDA archive and put it on a server accessible by HTTP. 10. Put the server software onto a remote system and started it. 11. Natted the port to this server. 12. Installed the add on for my locally installed version of NVDA.

All in all this took about 20 minutes and my first test was from Ireland to Malta.

If you aren't smiling and thinking of doing some kind of happy dance at this point, there's something wrong with you.

Regards

Darragh

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 16 December 2014 23:48 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

It sounds like it will be a good solution for blind on blind support so to speak & a blind person supporting a sighted friend. ISTM that corporations who also have sighted administrators will still have to deploy another remote access solution on top of this one though as it doesn't support video & I got the impression that they're not intending to make it into a fully featured remote administration tool. Never the less, I'll be contributing to their campain as it's noticeabley better than TeamViewer & NVDA which is what I'm having to use for people at the moment.

Cheers, Ben.

On 12/16/14, Katherine Moss wrote:

...

Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP.

-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access

Hi all,

Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com

NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.m p3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more.

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Please consider nominating NV Access for the CNIB - Winston Gordon Award of Excellence in Accessible Technology. This would give NV Access as much as $9,000 towards their funding goal! More information follows, and was taken from: http://www.cnib.ca/en/about/awards/achievement/wga/Pages/default.aspx The Winston Gordon Award was established by CNIB in 1988 and is presented to an individual or group who has made significant technological advances benefiting people with vision loss. Nominations are welcomed from individuals, small firms or mainstream suppliers of goods and services, as well as developers of assistive technology. We are specifically interested in computer or mobile applications that make information accessible to people who are blind or partially sighted. The award consists of a cash prize of up to $9,000 CAD, which will be presented in Toronto on March 25, 2015. Nominations must be received by January 16, 2015 in order to qualify. Eligibility: Nominations may be submitted from any country or territory. A person or party may nominate themselves, a colleague or an organization. •The device or application must be currently available in Canada. •The device or application must be in market for 1 year at time of nomination. •The device or application must have a documented benefit to people who are blind or partially sighted. The award may be presented to an individual, group or organization, including inventors, designers, corporations and academic institutions and suppliers of goods and services. The device or application must be currently available, broadly distributed and accepted by people who are blind or partially sighted. Nomination process: To submit a nomination, please complete the nomination form and forward it, with your reference letters to WinstonGordonAward@cnib.ca You can find the nomination form, a completely accessible PDF, at: http://www.cnib.ca/en/about/awards/achievement/wga/Pages/default.aspx The first time I posted this, there was some confusion between the information on the Website quoted above and the information at the top of the application form. This discrepancy has been cleared up. Please distribute to other listserves, message forums etc. Thank you for taking the time to nominate this excelent game changing product! Chris

Thanks Chris. I've just nominated them. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: 17 December 2014 15:26 To: Blind sysadmins list Cc: cavi-discuss@ciscovision.org Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access Please consider nominating NV Access for the CNIB - Winston Gordon Award of Excellence in Accessible Technology. This would give NV Access as much as $9,000 towards their funding goal! More information follows, and was taken from: http://www.cnib.ca/en/about/awards/achievement/wga/Pages/default.aspx The Winston Gordon Award was established by CNIB in 1988 and is presented to an individual or group who has made significant technological advances benefiting people with vision loss. Nominations are welcomed from individuals, small firms or mainstream suppliers of goods and services, as well as developers of assistive technology. We are specifically interested in computer or mobile applications that make information accessible to people who are blind or partially sighted. The award consists of a cash prize of up to $9,000 CAD, which will be presented in Toronto on March 25, 2015. Nominations must be received by January 16, 2015 in order to qualify. Eligibility: Nominations may be submitted from any country or territory. A person or party may nominate themselves, a colleague or an organization. .The device or application must be currently available in Canada. .The device or application must be in market for 1 year at time of nomination. .The device or application must have a documented benefit to people who are blind or partially sighted. The award may be presented to an individual, group or organization, including inventors, designers, corporations and academic institutions and suppliers of goods and services. The device or application must be currently available, broadly distributed and accepted by people who are blind or partially sighted. Nomination process: To submit a nomination, please complete the nomination form and forward it, with your reference letters to WinstonGordonAward@cnib.ca You can find the nomination form, a completely accessible PDF, at: http://www.cnib.ca/en/about/awards/achievement/wga/Pages/default.aspx The first time I posted this, there was some confusion between the information on the Website quoted above and the information at the top of the application form. This discrepancy has been cleared up. Please distribute to other listserves, message forums etc. Thank you for taking the time to nominate this excelent game changing product! Chris _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins

This will be an absolute game changer. I use all the different flavors of remoting accessible to us including RDP with Jaws and NVDA and Serotek's RIM on a daily basis. If anyone knows how to get involved in BetaTesting I would be very interested. HF -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:06 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access Now that's awesome? not to mention, best programmers out there to do the job; everything I've purchased from Christopher, and I've nearly bought all of his stuff; I intend to finish those purchases off soon; I can't tell you how much productivity and joy I've gotten out of them. I use QRead and Chicken Nugget on the daily. If those are good, then I can only imagine what this will do; hopefully it will be good for both client OS and server OS access. Now all we need is a virtual channel over RDP. -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:38 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] NVDA will soon support remote access Hi all, Taken from http://www.nvdaremote.com NVDA Remote Access Preview Welcome to NVDA Remote Access NVDA Remote access will be a free add-on to NVDA which allows a user to remotely control another machine. It does its part to reverse the trend of blind unemployment by creating more job opportunities for tech entrepreneurs, system administrators, rehabilitation specialists, and educators. Why do we need Remote Access? NVDA Remote Access will give blind users the freedom to enjoy a number of career and educational options. Blind Technical Support Professionals and amateurs alike can Use NVDA Remote access to connect to their clients computers remotely in real time and walk them through multi-step procedures or teach them new applications, techniques and workflows. Educators can hear what their students are doing on their computers and vice versa, providing a perfect environment for hands-on training from afar. Whether in an office down the hall or a datacenter on the other side of the globe, NVDA Remote access will provide powerful, minimal latency access to the Windows desktop via speech. Audio Demonstration Listen to a podcast where we demonstrate and discuss the current prototype of NVDA Remote Access. http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2014/20141213_nvda_remote.mp3 Who are we? Tyler Spivey and Christopher Toth, creators of popular accessible software such as 3MT Reader , QRead , Chicken Nugget , MushReader , and more. Cheers, Ben. _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins