Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work.
From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
Phil
Hi, The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through. Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting. WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work.
From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card. I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card. I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi, The USB headsets are headsets with a USB connection, they appear to the machine as a USB sound device. I have had a couple in the past, but in my bag they usually get damaged, so have taken to getting a USB device and then plugging a cheap pair of headphones into that. Remember in the KVM the servers may not be near the keyboard physically, for example we have a KVM unit in one rack, and servers several feet away in another set of racks. Not sure how easy it would be do get a USB device plugged in without a long wire. If using VMWare also it may be difficult because there is no real console on the server - the console is accessed using the Vmware client, which again only transfers images of the screen to the machine. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Yeah, but if you have physical access to a server, a USB headset can be a great help. We have only linux servers in our server room. They're all the rack mounted kind but they all have USB ports on the front. I modified the udev configuration to recognize my USB headset when I plug it in and start speech. So I can plug in a USB keyboard and my head set and I'm good to go. Very cool. You're right about headsets getting damaged though. I stepped on mine and broke one ear piece off. I just clipped the wires and threw it away. The remaining ear piece still works though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The USB headsets are headsets with a USB connection, they appear to the machine as a USB sound device.
I have had a couple in the past, but in my bag they usually get damaged, so have taken to getting a USB device and then plugging a cheap pair of headphones into that.
Remember in the KVM the servers may not be near the keyboard physically, for example we have a KVM unit in one rack, and servers several feet away in another set of racks. Not sure how easy it would be do get a USB device plugged in without a long wire.
If using VMWare also it may be difficult because there is no real console on the server - the console is accessed using the Vmware client, which again only transfers images of the screen to the machine.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi, Good point about USB headset and USB keyboard plugging directly into the front of the machine, never thought about that. Though for us people with partial sight, and who can't manage without a screen (even though I rely on a screen reader), that would be an issue. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: 07 March 2009 19:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches Yeah, but if you have physical access to a server, a USB headset can be a great help. We have only linux servers in our server room. They're all the rack mounted kind but they all have USB ports on the front. I modified the udev configuration to recognize my USB headset when I plug it in and start speech. So I can plug in a USB keyboard and my head set and I'm good to go. Very cool. You're right about headsets getting damaged though. I stepped on mine and broke one ear piece off. I just clipped the wires and threw it away. The remaining ear piece still works though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The USB headsets are headsets with a USB connection, they appear to the machine as a USB sound device.
I have had a couple in the past, but in my bag they usually get damaged, so have taken to getting a USB device and then plugging a cheap pair of headphones into that.
Remember in the KVM the servers may not be near the keyboard physically, for example we have a KVM unit in one rack, and servers several feet away in another set of racks. Not sure how easy it would be do get a USB device plugged in without a long wire.
If using VMWare also it may be difficult because there is no real console on the server - the console is accessed using the Vmware client, which again only transfers images of the screen to the machine.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi, Good point about USB headset and USB keyboard plugging directly into the front of the machine, never thought about that. Though for us people with partial sight, and who can't manage without a screen (even though I rely on a screen reader), that would be an issue. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: 07 March 2009 19:09 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches Yeah, but if you have physical access to a server, a USB headset can be a great help. We have only linux servers in our server room. They're all the rack mounted kind but they all have USB ports on the front. I modified the udev configuration to recognize my USB headset when I plug it in and start speech. So I can plug in a USB keyboard and my head set and I'm good to go. Very cool. You're right about headsets getting damaged though. I stepped on mine and broke one ear piece off. I just clipped the wires and threw it away. The remaining ear piece still works though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The USB headsets are headsets with a USB connection, they appear to the machine as a USB sound device.
I have had a couple in the past, but in my bag they usually get damaged, so have taken to getting a USB device and then plugging a cheap pair of headphones into that.
Remember in the KVM the servers may not be near the keyboard physically, for example we have a KVM unit in one rack, and servers several feet away in another set of racks. Not sure how easy it would be do get a USB device plugged in without a long wire.
If using VMWare also it may be difficult because there is no real console on the server - the console is accessed using the Vmware client, which again only transfers images of the screen to the machine.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi, The USB headsets are headsets with a USB connection, they appear to the machine as a USB sound device. I have had a couple in the past, but in my bag they usually get damaged, so have taken to getting a USB device and then plugging a cheap pair of headphones into that. Remember in the KVM the servers may not be near the keyboard physically, for example we have a KVM unit in one rack, and servers several feet away in another set of racks. Not sure how easy it would be do get a USB device plugged in without a long wire. If using VMWare also it may be difficult because there is no real console on the server - the console is accessed using the Vmware client, which again only transfers images of the screen to the machine. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 18:00 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches can you tell me more about the usb headset? It sounds interesting. It might be something I can use if I need to access the servers directly at some point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Shugart" <rshugart@pcisys.net> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card.
I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi Philip: I have to agree with Andrew here, Window-Eyes provides a much better RDP experience than anything else I've seen, and it really might not hurt to get familiar with it. I've never had the need for a KVM of any type. All of the servers I manage are in another room, and I've not had any problem using Window-Eyes's RDP features. In fact a few times I've had to remind myself that I'm working in a remote session. Our servers are so loud I wouldn't want them at my desk (grin.) With my new company, I'm managing some servers that are thousands of miles away, and again, am not running into any problems. I have a USB headset for those few situations I need to use a console or a PC without sound and it works well as well. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:21 AM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches HI. Thanks for the info. unfortunately, I am not very proficient using window eyes as of yet. What I use currently is a 4 port usb plus audio kvm. We bought it from dell, but I think it might be a belkin under the hood. It has 4 buttons on the front. I have my work station plugged into one port, and our 2 servers in 2 other ports. I use the fourth port when I need to work on a computer that someone brings me to reformat or do other maintenance on. The switch has the ability of being controlled from the keyboard, but I have never gotten that to work. I use a usb sound device on one server since it doesn't have any normal pci slots. the other machine had one pci slot, so I installed a turtle beach sound card. I have my speakers plugged into the kvm switch. it also supports microphone, but I have no need of that feature. hope this helps. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org> To: "Blind sysadmins list" <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Hi,
The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through.
Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting.
WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho.
Thanks. Andrew.
-----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches
Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work. From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hi, The ones we have in the server room don't do anything with audio, as most servers don't have soundcards anyway, not sure how easy it would be to plum all the cables through. Interested to hear a bit more about your KVM setup you have currently, it sounds quite interesting. WindowEyes is the king currently with RDP access imho. Thanks. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sent: 07 March 2009 02:19 To: blind system admins Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] ip kvm switches Has anyone had any experience using ip kvm switch that also passes audio? I need to admin 2 servers from a different building. I am not impressed with using jaws and remote desktop. System access works most of the time, but version 3 doesn't play nice with 3rd party screen readers. I sometimes need to use the jaws cursor for some tasks, and the virtual mouse in system access is a joke. At the moment, i have a four port usb/audio switch on my desk witht he servers in the same room. In April, the servers are moving to a different building. The buildings are going to be connected using fiber. If necessary, I can have a cat 5 cable pulled too, if cat5 kvm would work.
From the little I was able to find, ip kvm switches seem to send back a bit map for the video. Any help will be appreciated.
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