Question about using Cisco's Packet Tracer on AnY OS with ANY screenreader
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We’re put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don’t have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I’ve read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn’t interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan
Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period. On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Hi: Unfortunately, you are out of luck with that software. I can confirm that it is very inaccessible. It uses the QT UI framework, which has terrible accessibility APIs on Windows systems. In other words, Cisco's own development decisions are preventing them from being able to make it truly accessible. In my opinion, this is a really bad and shameful oversight on Cisco's part, and I would think that a large, profitable company like them can and should do better in the future. As far as your assignment is concerned, perhaps you may be able to incorporate more physical equipment into the workflow if your lab has racks of routers and switches. Otherwise, you may be stuck having to get someone to read the screen to you or just take a modified assignment. It is definitely not ideal, but at least it is something. Good luck! On 2/24/2015 2:53 PM, Jackie McBride wrote:
Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period.
On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
Thanks everyone for the information! :) Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 24, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Laughingthunder <laughingthunder26@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:
Unfortunately, you are out of luck with that software. I can confirm that it is very inaccessible. It uses the QT UI framework, which has terrible accessibility APIs on Windows systems. In other words, Cisco's own development decisions are preventing them from being able to make it truly accessible. In my opinion, this is a really bad and shameful oversight on Cisco's part, and I would think that a large, profitable company like them can and should do better in the future.
As far as your assignment is concerned, perhaps you may be able to incorporate more physical equipment into the workflow if your lab has racks of routers and switches. Otherwise, you may be stuck having to get someone to read the screen to you or just take a modified assignment. It is definitely not ideal, but at least it is something.
Good luck!
On 2/24/2015 2:53 PM, Jackie McBride wrote: Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period.
On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Instead of stating what it does not do, why not offer a suggestion or alternative -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:54 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Question about using Cisco's Packet Tracer on AnY OS with ANY screenreader Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period. On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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The only alternative I know of is study with CAVI http://www.cavitraining.com/ and use our remote bundle of equipment. I don't know of other solutions. Regards, Kerry. On 25/02/2015 10:06 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:
Instead of stating what it does not do, why not offer a suggestion or alternative
-----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:54 PM To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] Question about using Cisco's Packet Tracer on AnY OS with ANY screenreader
Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period.
On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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Packet Tracer is inaccessible. period. On 2/24/15, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We're put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don't have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I've read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn't interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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1. Send a email to accessability@cisco.com on the issue 2. I used dynamips. The software for the my labs you need a access to IOS Sorry for any typo'.s. My experience is the part
On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:58 am, Megan Bening <mebening@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Has anyone found an accessible way to get Packet Tracer to read out? I have a group project for college and I (and another visually impaired person who is also in the class) have been using old hardware Cisco routers, which has been working well until now. However, we are in a position where a group of us is supposed to collaborate on configuring a virtual network, consisting of 6 routers, through Packet Tracer, and we only have access to 4. We’re put in a position where the needed modifications are detrimental to the learning process of the rest of the group, as the assignment needs to be heavily modified to include only the 4 routers we have access to. The options seem to be for me to not work with a group and do everything myself, which I feel is a little over ambitious as the project scope was meant to include 4 people, or using a system we don’t have access to and getting a fellow group member to read screen output. Has anyone had experience using this and getting it to read out on Windows, Linux, or Mac? From what I’ve read DynaMIPS would work well, but doesn’t interface to Packet Tracer and requires more Linux configuration knowledge to set up than I currently have. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks so much for taking the time to read! Megan _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list Blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org https://lists.hodgsonfamily.org/listinfo/blind-sysadmins
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