Re: changed subject: synology
I'm going to date myself here. Anyone remember the old Windows Home Server product? That is one MS product I'm sorry was retired but such is life, it had an interesting following and with some work-arounds was actually quite accessible. I ran it for quite a few years as a file server and backup server before retiring it and moving things up to the cloud. I know there is still a server essentuals package that is based on the old WHS UI but I don't know if its suitable for home/small business use anymore. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology Hi, There are also some small DBs on there in the backend so any changes you make may not be persistent. This is why an API entrypoint would be better than SSH in my view, then having tools to connect over the API. I manage several Linux boxes running custom software appliances but SSH isn't really useful on any of them, but they all have good APIs and PowerShell modules so we can do the necessary work from the CLI. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> Sent: 23 January 2019 22:01 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology The web interface seems to call several not-so-well-documented programs. Many start with 'syno'. For example I believe synoshare lets you manipulate network shares. Other than that you can use standard tools such as lvresize for adding space to existing logical volumes. It's probably easier to take a few minutes to become familiar with the oddities of the web interface though. Chris On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 08:29:18PM -0000, philrigby62@gmail.com wrote: > Powershell interface? All I want, but cannot find anything about, is > how to perform the functions of the web interface via the command line > once signed into the Synology via ssh. After all, the OS, which they > call DSM, is Linux based. This seems to be a well-kept secret. I > suppose Synology wouldn't like us fiddling with things as it would complicate their support model. > > If anyone has any info on doing things with a Synology NAS via the > Linux command line of the Synology NAS itself, I would be very interested. > > As Andrew says, the web interface is just about usable but it is not > nice at all to use. Lots of JAWS application mode and JAWS cursor > usage to get everything done that is needed. It works but is awkward. > That's' why I'd love to know how to do it all from the Linux shell. > > > Cheers, > Phil. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> > Sent: 23 January 2019 16:47 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology > > Hi, > > It is fairly strange to use it but I have got used to it now and like > the features. It would be better if there was an API or PowerShell > interface but there we go. > > You have to use the tab and arrow keys in application mode and there > is a certain amount of fiddling required in some specific areas. > > Andrew. > ________________________________________ > From: Timothy Spaulding [spaulding@icanbrew.com] > Sent: 23 January 2019 16:44 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] changed subject: synology > > Hi, > > How do you like the interface to configure your Synology box? I am > thinking of replacing my old QNAP with a Synology RackStation. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:07 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Unraid VS. Windows server 2019 file > server > > Hi, > > UnRaid I don't believe is free so you would have to purchase that. I > personally use Synology for ages for the NAS and iSCSI target but that > was just my personal preference. I don't really think it matters > these days anyway as they all use very similar technology. > > Bear in mind Unraid and some of the home like NAS boxes may enable > more services (yes I did see an iSCSI box serving an iTunes server once). > > Andrew. > ________________________________________ > From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins > [blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] > Sent: 23 January 2019 13:26 > To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' > Cc: Katherine M. Moss > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Unraid VS. Windows server 2019 file server > > Hi all, > I've been scouring the internet for any information on this. I'm > trying to set up a file server for my home lab, and while I do have > Windows server > 2019 via a visual studio subscription, somebody told me that Unraid is > better for a file server from a security standpoint. States it's due > to the compatibility and legacy support that Windows carries with it, > though I firmly believed all of the unsecure storage options in > Windows to be disabled by default? I can find nothing on the internet > for enterprise-class networks stating that Unraid is surely a more > secure option. (yes, it's a lab, but it's set up like a small business > network to mimic what would be potentially found in the real world.) > Also, when comparing Unraid to Windows storage spaces, seems like the > two do the same thing. My current server is set up with a storage > space, and I've never had any issues with him in terms of transfer speeds, performance, or anything else. Any input would be great. > Most other folks I've gone to seem to be leaning towards Windows ... > especially with Windows server core, which my server would be. Thanks > for any input. Much appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
Hi, The business version of this gets you to set up a full AD implementation so its more complex and available at business prices obviously. There used to be NAS type hardware with this installed but I don't believe it is anything later than the 2012 R2 release. I used to love the backup feature where it did an incremental image backup of the machines, we have this now on Synology Backup actually. Andrew.and servers ________________________________________ From: Ryan Shugart [rshugart@ryanshugart.com] Sent: 24 January 2019 04:29 To: Blind sysadmins list Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology I'm going to date myself here. Anyone remember the old Windows Home Server product? That is one MS product I'm sorry was retired but such is life, it had an interesting following and with some work-arounds was actually quite accessible. I ran it for quite a few years as a file server and backup server before retiring it and moving things up to the cloud. I know there is still a server essentuals package that is based on the old WHS UI but I don't know if its suitable for home/small business use anymore. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> Reply-To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology Hi, There are also some small DBs on there in the backend so any changes you make may not be persistent. This is why an API entrypoint would be better than SSH in my view, then having tools to connect over the API. I manage several Linux boxes running custom software appliances but SSH isn't really useful on any of them, but they all have good APIs and PowerShell modules so we can do the necessary work from the CLI. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nestrud <ccn@chrisnestrud.com> Sent: 23 January 2019 22:01 To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology The web interface seems to call several not-so-well-documented programs. Many start with 'syno'. For example I believe synoshare lets you manipulate network shares. Other than that you can use standard tools such as lvresize for adding space to existing logical volumes. It's probably easier to take a few minutes to become familiar with the oddities of the web interface though. Chris On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 08:29:18PM -0000, philrigby62@gmail.com wrote: > Powershell interface? All I want, but cannot find anything about, is > how to perform the functions of the web interface via the command line > once signed into the Synology via ssh. After all, the OS, which they > call DSM, is Linux based. This seems to be a well-kept secret. I > suppose Synology wouldn't like us fiddling with things as it would complicate their support model. > > If anyone has any info on doing things with a Synology NAS via the > Linux command line of the Synology NAS itself, I would be very interested. > > As Andrew says, the web interface is just about usable but it is not > nice at all to use. Lots of JAWS application mode and JAWS cursor > usage to get everything done that is needed. It works but is awkward. > That's' why I'd love to know how to do it all from the Linux shell. > > > Cheers, > Phil. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> > Sent: 23 January 2019 16:47 > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: changed subject: synology > > Hi, > > It is fairly strange to use it but I have got used to it now and like > the features. It would be better if there was an API or PowerShell > interface but there we go. > > You have to use the tab and arrow keys in application mode and there > is a certain amount of fiddling required in some specific areas. > > Andrew. > ________________________________________ > From: Timothy Spaulding [spaulding@icanbrew.com] > Sent: 23 January 2019 16:44 > To: Blind sysadmins list > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] changed subject: synology > > Hi, > > How do you like the interface to configure your Synology box? I am > thinking of replacing my old QNAP with a Synology RackStation. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:07 AM > To: Blind sysadmins list <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Re: Unraid VS. Windows server 2019 file > server > > Hi, > > UnRaid I don't believe is free so you would have to purchase that. I > personally use Synology for ages for the NAS and iSCSI target but that > was just my personal preference. I don't really think it matters > these days anyway as they all use very similar technology. > > Bear in mind Unraid and some of the home like NAS boxes may enable > more services (yes I did see an iSCSI box serving an iTunes server once). > > Andrew. > ________________________________________ > From: Katherine M. Moss via Blind-sysadmins > [blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] > Sent: 23 January 2019 13:26 > To: 'blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org' > Cc: Katherine M. Moss > Subject: [Blind-sysadmins] Unraid VS. Windows server 2019 file server > > Hi all, > I've been scouring the internet for any information on this. I'm > trying to set up a file server for my home lab, and while I do have > Windows server > 2019 via a visual studio subscription, somebody told me that Unraid is > better for a file server from a security standpoint. States it's due > to the compatibility and legacy support that Windows carries with it, > though I firmly believed all of the unsecure storage options in > Windows to be disabled by default? I can find nothing on the internet > for enterprise-class networks stating that Unraid is surely a more > secure option. (yes, it's a lab, but it's set up like a small business > network to mimic what would be potentially found in the real world.) > Also, when comparing Unraid to Windows storage spaces, seems like the > two do the same thing. My current server is set up with a storage > space, and I've never had any issues with him in terms of transfer speeds, performance, or anything else. Any input would be great. > Most other folks I've gone to seem to be leaning towards Windows ... > especially with Windows server core, which my server would be. Thanks > for any input. Much appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > _______________________________________________ > Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- > blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ Blind-sysadmins mailing list -- blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org To unsubscribe send an email to blind-sysadmins-leave@lists.hodgsonfamily.org
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