Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
Hi
1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation?
You have to do that after install by hand unfortunately. You also can't do that using the config because it seems to write that into the registry. maybe you might be able to fnid that in the registry somewhere. haven't looked yet though.
2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation?
I had to replace the icon on the desktop. i dropped it into the public desktop folder so everyone can access nvda on their profile. So the target of the icon looks like that: "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r -c \\server\NVDA The install file for silent installs looks like that over here: nvda_2017.2.exe --install-silent --minimal
3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking?
You can do that as well. though i have always a teamviewer session going on in the background as well because admin screens are not moved over using nvda remote. at least when you haven't installed the addon systemwide. another step you need to take when setting up new machines. though i have found out that it seems not always to work with that solution. So i kept using a teamviewer and nvda remote combo. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 10:58 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello there Simon, Thanks much for answering my questions and putting up with me so far. I have just a few more please, just to reaffirm my understanding. 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? Again thanks for any further reply and apologies for my questions, I've not done this before and never would have thought about doing it had I not seen your previous messages. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, those are very good questions. forgot to answer them so no problem. I had to create a quick batch script to execute a silent install. so basically its installing silently. though i had to talk to every user to stop their work so i can do that locally. i haven't found out how to pack nvda into a msi and roll it out with windows update or others. i am getting now old versions of nvda and a mixed version pool all over the 80 pcs we have here. it took me 1-2 weeks to get all that set up but it was worth it. i didn't enable use current settings on the logon screen. i also disabled nvda completely so no nvda at the login screen and other admin dialogs and no nvda after login. what i do is logging in to the pc using teamviewer or similar software then enabling nvda from the desktop. you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. Greetings, Simon Am 13.08.2017 um 22:13 schrieb Zameer Mahomed:
Hello Simon,
Thanks much for your reply.
I have a few questions please, If you don't mind me asking, did you install NVDA silently on all the pc's? Secondly, on the computers NVDA was installed, did you select to: Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens?
Sorry again for all my questions.
Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
Hi,
You can copy a good icon and drop it in every box. that what i had to do. i dropped it into c:\users\public\desktop and from there you can start it then.
Greetings, Simon
Am 13.08.2017 um 18:36 schrieb Zameer Mahomed:
Hi List,
Apologies in advance if I am going off topic.
Has anyone gotten NVDA to install silently using a custom config pointed elsewhere?
My question stems from some NVDARemote messages which I've followed from Simon sometime ago, Thanks Simon.
I've setup the config and put it it on the server however,
My problem is that
If I install NVDA with switches like:
c:\nvda.exe --install-silent -m launchNVDA -r -c \\share\NVDA
After a silent install, on the desktop, target of the icon shows like:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r
Of course I could modify the icon to point to the config, but I can't imagine having to do this on many pc's within the company?
Any help regarding my issue would be much appreciated please.
Kind Regards
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Hello Simon, Thanks so much for answering all my questions, I really appreciate your help. I've got everything working on my home network, will try and do this on a corporate network real soon. Thanks again. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Eigeldinger Simon Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:19 AM To: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi
1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation?
You have to do that after install by hand unfortunately. You also can't do that using the config because it seems to write that into the registry. maybe you might be able to fnid that in the registry somewhere. haven't looked yet though.
2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation?
I had to replace the icon on the desktop. i dropped it into the public desktop folder so everyone can access nvda on their profile. So the target of the icon looks like that: "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r -c \\server\NVDA The install file for silent installs looks like that over here: nvda_2017.2.exe --install-silent --minimal
3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking?
You can do that as well. though i have always a teamviewer session going on in the background as well because admin screens are not moved over using nvda remote. at least when you haven't installed the addon systemwide. another step you need to take when setting up new machines. though i have found out that it seems not always to work with that solution. So i kept using a teamviewer and nvda remote combo. Greetings, Simon Mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Eigeldinger Informatik Nebengebäude 1, OG1 ------------------------- Stadt Hohenems Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4 6845 Hohenems Österreich Tel.: +43 5576 7101-1143 Fax: +43 5576 7101-1149 E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at Web: www.hohenems.at Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] Im Auftrag von Zameer Mahomed Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 10:58 An: 'Blind sysadmins list' <blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org> Betreff: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hello there Simon, Thanks much for answering my questions and putting up with me so far. I have just a few more please, just to reaffirm my understanding. 1. You Installed NVDA silently as you mentioned. Is there a switch that would disable NVDA from starting at logon? Or did you have to manually uncheck the checkbox after installation? 2. Did the -c flag work for you when you wrote your batch file, or did you have to manually enter the -r -c flags after installation? 3. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say: you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. I assume you ask the person on the other end to read what's on screen when NVDA stops speaking? Again thanks for any further reply and apologies for my questions, I've not done this before and never would have thought about doing it had I not seen your previous messages. Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 8:46 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config Hi, those are very good questions. forgot to answer them so no problem. I had to create a quick batch script to execute a silent install. so basically its installing silently. though i had to talk to every user to stop their work so i can do that locally. i haven't found out how to pack nvda into a msi and roll it out with windows update or others. i am getting now old versions of nvda and a mixed version pool all over the 80 pcs we have here. it took me 1-2 weeks to get all that set up but it was worth it. i didn't enable use current settings on the logon screen. i also disabled nvda completely so no nvda at the login screen and other admin dialogs and no nvda after login. what i do is logging in to the pc using teamviewer or similar software then enabling nvda from the desktop. you need or find teamviewer still useful when admin screens stop nvda from talking to your nvda remote session. Greetings, Simon Am 13.08.2017 um 22:13 schrieb Zameer Mahomed:
Hello Simon,
Thanks much for your reply.
I have a few questions please, If you don't mind me asking, did you install NVDA silently on all the pc's? Secondly, on the computers NVDA was installed, did you select to: Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens?
Sorry again for all my questions.
Kind Regards -----Original Message----- From: Blind-sysadmins [mailto:blind-sysadmins-bounces@lists.hodgsonfamily.org] On Behalf Of Simon Eigeldinger via Blind-sysadmins Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:50 PM To: blind-sysadmins@lists.hodgsonfamily.org Cc: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at> Subject: Re: [Blind-sysadmins] deploying NVDA with custom config
Hi,
You can copy a good icon and drop it in every box. that what i had to do. i dropped it into c:\users\public\desktop and from there you can start it then.
Greetings, Simon
Am 13.08.2017 um 18:36 schrieb Zameer Mahomed:
Hi List,
Apologies in advance if I am going off topic.
Has anyone gotten NVDA to install silently using a custom config pointed elsewhere?
My question stems from some NVDARemote messages which I've followed from Simon sometime ago, Thanks Simon.
I've setup the config and put it it on the server however,
My problem is that
If I install NVDA with switches like:
c:\nvda.exe --install-silent -m launchNVDA -r -c \\share\NVDA
After a silent install, on the desktop, target of the icon shows like:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r
Of course I could modify the icon to point to the config, but I can't imagine having to do this on many pc's within the company?
Any help regarding my issue would be much appreciated please.
Kind Regards
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